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First track day
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I am finally doing my first ever track day on May 17th (Pacific Northwest), super exited for it however a little bit worried from reading other threads regarding MPSS tires. My car has about 29k miles and tires were put on like 4k miles ago if not less so they have some meat left. Is there anything special i should know to not destroy my tires because i kind of want to make it through the summer on them? Am i going to be fine for my first ever track day? |
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Start at 32 all around. Measure all of your tire pressures at the end of every session and bleed air to 38 psi (you don’t want them running over 40 psi when hot on the track). PSS go up quite a bit with tracking (I used them a couple weekends when first learning the car) and they would increase 8-10 psi with 20 minute sessions at an ambient outdoor temp of 60s-70s.
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04-26-2019, 10:47 AM | #6 |
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Those are pretty good and generally close, but I’d still buy and use a nice tire pressure gauge with an actually dial and bleeder valve. Then you can check and adjust on the spot.
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The PSI measurement isn't too bad, but the temperature must be AIR temp and not actual tire rubber temp (which is what you want). Do not use the temperature reading on the display for anything. I normally turn on the vehicle status so I can watch the pressures throughout the session which allows you to understand what the car is doing (front endpushing, rolling over on the sidewalls, etc.). |
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Check your tires immediately after each session to check your hottest temps, but also check immediately prior to each session and bleed off any excess PSI to ensure that you're not going out on over-inflated tires. This is why you need a good "racing gauge" for accurate readings and a bleed-off button. (Search Amazon for Longacre, they make a good gauge for less than $30.) Hydration is very important. Drink at least one liter bottle of water between sessions and pee before you go out on track.
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My $0,02 if it’s your first ever track day, ask around for a ride with someone in an f80, try to follow someone who is fast in a spec Miata or spec e30, and try to get comfortable with using dsc off and working up the pace once you are consistently able to drive “the line”. Have fun!
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OP,
HOD is a solid group, been to quite a few of their track days. they run a really safe program. SD///M4, Still a few spots open for Laguna Seca on May 30, also waitlisted for May 31 HOD |
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Yeah i heard about their safety record and everything but still debating whether or not i should get track insurance? leaning towards a yes right now
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Track insurance is probably less important in HPDE events as they don't allow "racing" or passing without permission and I'm sure as you get more comfortable with other drivers and your car that you can probably think twice about track insurance. But for your first time? Bite the bullet, get your mind into "fun mode" rather than "shit, I have to take this turn a lot slower than I'd like because I'm worried about going off course and causing damage." I ended up choosing Hagerty because their 10% deductible rate was a few dollars cheaper than Lockton's 15% deductible rate. |
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I would hold off on insurance until you get 1-2 events under your belt and have a better idea of what confidence level you have. |
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I did my first ever HPDE session this weekend with BMW CCA. It was a blast and I learned so much from my instructor.
Lessons learned: 1. Learn the line 2. Don't try to get the best lap time. Focus on being smooth. 3. Make sure you fill up your gas tank when you get halfway. As you get more comfortable you will start pushing it more and your gas will go pretty quick. If you don't fill up, you might end up stalling out or starving your car from fuel on corners. 4. Keep an eye on your tire pressure. I kept my pressure around 34-38 PSI. 5. Get a ride with your instructor Pic of tires after event attached. The PSS did better then I expected and have plenty of tread left. |
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Really random stuff can happen (e.g. car doesn't have brakes going into a corner and rear ends another car, coolant line (yours or someone else's) or oil line bursts during your corner entry, etc etc) and someone can get taken out through no fault of their own Congrats on achieving your first HPDE. you'll soon be toasting PSS tires quickly like everyone else |
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I definitely agree with you, it’s a controlled environment in the beginner school groups at good organizations. So the risk “should” be very low. |
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