F80 M3 Competition Package (ZCP) Spotted at BMWNA

W/// · 10-28-2015, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by solstice

That and all competitors has 450 hp or more including the RS5. Two have +500 hp so it would actually be quite a surprise if ZCP do not bring a little power bump given how easy it would be for BMW. But it's not guaranteed for sure.

Completely agreed. Even an extra 15 hp like on the M5/6 would be a nice surprise.

Frankly, I have 0 intentions of touching the engine due to this potentially being my first new car with a warranty so I would like to see that.

Make it $3k with the option to get 437M's and I would tick that box

dgp · 10-28-2015, 02:39 PM

M6 comp package is 40hp over base 560hp to 600hp (7% increase). Having that same increase on M4 would mean 455hp (+/- 5hp).

SCOTT26 · 10-28-2015, 03:24 PM

There is more that can be done to the M3/M4 than just more Power!
Everybody is looking for that fix when if you actually consider it does not need that.
I think just making it just a bit more sharper and focused would still herald the claim that it is unrivalled.
The M4 GTS is one of a kind though.

Stevens21234 · 10-28-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There is more that can be done to the M3/M4 than just more Power!
Everybody is looking for that fix when if you actually consider it does not need that.
I think just making it just a bit more sharper and focused would still herald the claim that it is unrivalled.
The M4 GTS is one of a kind though.

better question is will the power bump be retrofittable by dealers? how about suspension components?

solstice · 10-28-2015, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There is more that can be done to the M3/M4 than just more Power!
Everybody is looking for that fix when if you actually consider it does not need that.
I think just making it just a bit more sharper and focused would still herald the claim that it is unrivalled.
The M4 GTS is one of a kind though.

Personally I don't care since the car has a nice balance of power and handling for the street already but as you say "everyone is looking for it" and in the end BMW is making cars for it's customers and getting them what they are looking for is not such bad business

Spec. and review competition is also a very real phenomenon. Lastly there isn't anything I can think of that needs "fixing" other than steering feel.

SamS · 10-28-2015, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There is more that can be done to the M3/M4 than just more Power!
Everybody is looking for that fix when if you actually consider it does not need that.
I think just making it just a bit more sharper and focused would still herald the claim that it is unrivalled.
The M4 GTS is one of a kind though.

Yeah, I agree that M3/M4 don't need more power. I could certainly see the "sharper" aspect being intriguing. In some ways, I think my E92M was a bit more raw, and I'm sure the GTS or further M4 development can push in that direction.

solstice · 10-28-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

Yeah, I agree that M3/M4 don't need more power. I could certainly see the "sharper" aspect being intriguing. In some ways, I think my E92M was a bit more raw, and I'm sure the GTS or further M4 development can push in that direction.

It's a mix for me, the F80 rides harder, is noisier with a more raucous engine but there is this lack of mechanical feel with a more space age clinical and filtered feel of composites in the chassis and layers of tech between you and the source or target in the drive train and steering.

CanAutM3 · 10-28-2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

In some ways, I think my E92M was a bit more raw,

Interestingly, I find it is the other way around. In general, I find my M4 to be "more raw" than my E92 M3 was. With one exception though, I find the S55 to be more subdued in daily driving compared to the S65.

CanAutM3 · 10-28-2015, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevens21234

better question is will the power bump be retrofittable by dealers? how about suspension components?

I think Scott26 is hinting that there won't be a power bump.

dgp · 10-28-2015, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I think Scott26 is hinting that there won't be a power bump.

Or it could have suspension, MDM adjustments and other things alongside a small power bump...

W/// · 10-28-2015, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There is more that can be done to the M3/M4 than just more Power!
Everybody is looking for that fix when if you actually consider it does not need that.
I think just making it just a bit more sharper and focused would still herald the claim that it is unrivalled.
The M4 GTS is one of a kind though.

Right, but did the M5 and M6 really NEED more power? No.
Don't see what the difference is in this scenario

solstice · 10-28-2015, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

Right, but did the M5 and M6 really NEED more power? No.
Don't see what the difference is in this scenario

Agreed and if there is no power bump judging from the comments here about the wheels very,very few will tick ZCP but if there is a factory ( full warranty ) power bump I think very,very few can resist it. Power sell and BMW know it or there would not have been any reason as you say for the symbolic extra 15hp on the M5/M6.

TJS///M3 · 10-28-2015, 05:36 PM

Sure wish we knew a time frame for having the package in the system and being able to order it. Sometime 2016 doesn't really help

I have my CA after me to place my F80 order lol. I told him I am on hold until after the package is announced, but I'm starting to lean towards saying the hell with it and going without it. Of course I'll probably regret it afterwards

Edit: I see that Scott said Spring in the other thread.. but that means potentially sometime between April and Jun to be able to order? Ugh.

gblansten · 10-28-2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

Because the M5/6 gets a small power bump when you opt for ZCP. Why is it so completely left field to think that they might do the same thing for the M3/4? Especially considering MB has the C63S on top of the regular C63

completely agree. Would expect a bump to 450 or so.

BwoodBMW · 10-28-2015, 06:05 PM

If they could do something to improve traction they could make the car quite a bit quicker without adding power. Shaving a bit of weight, different tires, some suspension changes, etc... all could make a real difference.

Mario_Kart · 10-28-2015, 09:25 PM

can we get some interior pictures as well please? thanks,

shoei · 10-28-2015, 09:32 PM

Thanks for the pics and its official - I hate these wheels... The e9x zhp wheels were far sexier...

The Automotive Enthusiast · 10-28-2015, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There is more that can be done to the M3/M4 than just more Power!
Everybody is looking for that fix when if you actually consider it does not need that.
I think just making it just a bit more sharper and focused would still herald the claim that it is unrivalled.
The M4 GTS is one of a kind though.

Waiting to place my order. When will I see this pop up on DCS?!?!

aaa335 · 10-28-2015, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mario_Kart

can we get some interior pictures as well please? thanks,

Has the competition pack given interior changes in the past?

W/// · 10-28-2015, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aaa335

Has the competition pack given interior changes in the past?

E46 got the alcantara steering wheel standard

devilbones · 10-28-2015, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by W///

E46 got the alcantara steering wheel standard

My E46 ZCP had the M Cloth interior too. I am not sure if the other trim packages came with it though.

BMW M3 CRT · 10-29-2015, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I think Scott26 is hinting that there won't be a power bump.

Right ... I understand Scotts Post in the same way!

An nice addition for an CP would be non electric-seats with an nice CP-only Leather-Alcantara Combo ... or better an optional mild form of raceseats (like the CRT-seats) !?

And make the CP cheaper and the 666M wheels therefor optional.

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