Nov 2016 M3/M4 Competition Package change - 437M wheels now available

[boss2k]

This is great news and should have been made available from day1. The only reason i would not have bought CP are those ugly wheels

[shivaswrath]

Couldn't you resell the 20s for 19s and pocket cash?

[firedown31]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

Couldn't you resell the 20s for 19s and pocket cash?

Most likely yes. But do you want to go through the hassle of trying to sell the 20s and get 19s? May not be as easy as you think, location probably plays a big part.

[MWM]

those who want the $8k+ brake option prolly want to stick with 20s right? so that rocks don't score the inner wheel barrel

[adc]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

Pretty pointless. A wise person would keep the 20's and then if they want the black 19's they could easily trade the 20's for the 19's plus cash in their pocket.

They really should refresh the 19's. A little change in the design would be nice and keep things different from the M2 wheels.

Wouldn't work if you lease, for one thing.

If l would lease a ZCP now, it'd be with the 19" wheels, because DC roads and potholes. For track, I have dedicated 18's.

Love the look of the 20's, but I'm not willing to put up with the increased ride harshness on our local crappy roads...

[gblansten]

I would love to see a pro driver run the M4 comp in 19s then 20s on the same course and same day.

[JoeyBananas]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Brah.. ill say it as i've said before.

2 years with the 19s. 0 compliments.

2 months with the 666Ms. Nothing but compliments from BMW people and random people alike. At least 10. The 666Ms are amazing looking in person with a proper stance.

I actually saw them in person last week at the dealership and they are actually pretty nice, lol. Much much better looking in person .

I'm just grabbing for straws why BMW made the move, lol

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by firedown31

Most likely yes. But do you want to go through the hassle of trying to sell the 20s and get 19s? May not be as easy as you think, location probably plays a big part.

In the Atlanta market I found someone willing to do a local swap and pay me $1000 cash on top. Took about a week.

I ended up keeping the 666 tho they really grew on me.

[WestBankM4]

Same like u/dmk08 my very first compliment on my ZCP was the wheels. It was at 4-Corners Alice's restaurant up on Highway 9. A motorcycle guy came up to me and said, "wow, look at those wheels" to kick off conversation on the car. I swear it was word for word and I wouldn't forget it because of all the criticism I've heard on the forums prior to picking up my car.

I think it's a nice touch that BMW allows you to now have a choice on your ZCP package. I wouldn't opt for anything but the 20's though.

[MPakE90]

Now that we have even more options, I see it as a plus. We are very fortunate to have more paint/wheel options for the F80/82 compared to the E90/92, yet most of the members here on this forum are always bickering over YMB and 666M

Why can't we just choose the options we like and all get along? We're all unique individuals with a common interest in the F80/82

[TaisChuu]

With 19's you will be able to run more track tires options, the 20's don't have much tires to choose from.

[DavidGP]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I think most track junkies could not care less about the track performance or tire choice for the OE 19" or 20" wheels since most have a dedicated set of 18" track wheels anyway .

I respectfully disagree, there are a good amount of choices for 19" as there are for 18". But you are right, most would use 18" as do I.

[M2Crew]

19" design in 20" dimensions is the true best option. The regular black 19" wheels fit the F82/83 perfectly.

More concavity would've done the 666M good.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Originally Posted by ASAP

So let me get this straight?

Person pays for comp pack for added performance.

Person swaps 20s for 19s.

Person reduces performance due to swap and inadvertanly pays more for nothing.

Brilliant!

I don't think you're sacrificing any performance. I know the 666 are not forged and weigh a lot. Not sure about those very nice 19" wheels but even if they are not the car will probably feel better with them versus the triple sixes.

[visi107]

Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe

I don't think you're sacrificing any performance. I know the 666 are not forged and weigh a lot. Not sure about those very nice 19" wheels but even if they are not the car will probably feel better with them versus the triple sixes.

The 666 actually are forged. And so are the 19s.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by WW435

Aren't the 20s heavier than the 19s? Do they have any performance benefit over the 19s? I thought I read they were heavier and were actually detrimental to performance?

It's just rhetoric. People are acting like going from 20's to 19's is somehow a detriment..........when it isn't. The 19's are a really good wheel.

[FC4]

Awesome. Changing my order now. The no-cost 19s will look great on my ZCP car with a moonroof and aluminum trim.

[tke743]

Originally Posted by ASAP

So let me get this straight?

Person pays for comp pack for added performance.

Person swaps 20s for 19s.

Person reduces performance due to swap and inadvertanly pays more for nothing.

Brilliant!

19's are actually better performance, the 20's are for show. Regrettably my car's competition date is tomorrow so I'm stuck with the 20" lead weights until I buy a set of the 513m 18's.

[Kevinl]

Good move the 666 look much better in gold on the gts

If i was going to buy a zcp i would want the 437 even if the price isnt discounted

[stefan]

Originally Posted by ASAP

So let me get this straight?

Person pays for comp pack for added performance.

Person swaps 20s for 19s.

Person reduces performance due to swap and inadvertanly pays more for nothing.

Brilliant!

On what planet would swapping 20s for 19s here between these wheel models cause a performance reduction.

Originally Posted by bb1857

There isn't a single person typing on this forum that could tell the difference in a blind test on a racetrack the difference between the 18/19/20" wheels. The amateur driving ability of everyone here can't string lap times consistent enough together to even tell if a 200lb weight was stuffed in the trunk.

BMW gives the whiners exactly what they are looking for because the ZCP is so awful in their mind and then they bitch and moan calling BMW scammers because they didn't get a wheel discount but they will happily piss away money on mods and $6 coffees.

Our society is fucked with a capital F because the only thing people consistently want anymore is WHAT THEY CAN'T HAVE so they've been trained to throw temper tantrums in public forums to make themselves feel better for 5 minutes. Enjoy whatever BMW you have and buy a roll a duct tape to cover your keyboard so we don't have to hear your whining!

Wow. This is so wrong. Where to begin with this post..

You can tell the difference between a heavy (20" 666) wheel on the road and the lighter 19". You can feel this in every day driving and it's a MASSIVE difference. You sound like someone who has never tried lightweight wheels. I would even argue that it makes more of a difference on the road than on the track. Turn in is way more crisp and enjoyable. Everyday driving is improved and much more tactile. You can prove this with physics, unsprung weight is the worst kind. Your analogy of 200lb of weight in the truck demonstrates that you do not understand the value of having lighter unsprung weight at each corner. In fact I agree with you nobody would notice 200lb extra sprung weight.

Not to mention the slightly increased tire aspect that can be afforded on 19" to give a much more compliant ride.

If you don't notice that difference you should not be driving a sports car. Sell your M3 and buy a truck.

I am just so staggered by the ignorance of your post. Please go out and buy a set of APEX or otherwise. Reply back here to eat crow. Correct me, but I feel like you have never ventured off the stock wheel.

What is so irritating about your post is that, not only are you incredibly off base, but you insult the very members of the message board you post on. Even if all of what I just said was wrong, you're saying customers are better off with LESS choices? The best part is you tell everyone else that, because they disagree with you, that they should "stop whining" as you whine about their whining. Incredible.

If anything, the competition pack itself should be the option you don't tick. THAT'S the package that makes zero sense for the every day driver. Near unnoticeable increase in power. Different (worse) springs that will probably just make the ride harder if noticed at all. And a bunch of gimmicky accents everywhere. But lightweight wheels are absolutely 100% one of the best dollar value upgrades you can make for your car in everyday driving situations.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by bb1857

There isn't a single person typing on this forum that could tell the difference in a blind test on a racetrack the difference between the 18/19/20" wheels. The amateur driving ability of everyone here can't string lap times consistent enough together to even tell if a 200lb weight was stuffed in the trunk.

BMW gives the whiners exactly what they are looking for because the ZCP is so awful in their mind and then they bitch and moan calling BMW scammers because they didn't get a wheel discount but they will happily piss away money on mods and $6 coffees.

Our society is fucked with a capital F because the only thing people consistently want anymore is WHAT THEY CAN'T HAVE so they've been trained to throw temper tantrums in public forums to make themselves feel better for 5 minutes. Enjoy whatever BMW you have and buy a roll a duct tape to cover your keyboard so we don't have to hear your whining!

So true. I respect this post.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe

I don't think you're sacrificing any performance. I know the 666 are not forged and weigh a lot. Not sure about those very nice 19" wheels but even if they are not the car will probably feel better with them versus the triple sixes.

The 666M's certainly are forged and are made by BBS.