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      02-20-2021, 09:26 AM   #2839
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That's not an article, it is a marketing piece. And as with all other G8X marketing, there are little numbers, just a lot of qualitative superlatives.
Yup, all i said was the weight is going to those components.

We can sit and trash it all we want, i personally hate it, you could read my posts in here, i think it's the worst car ever made without ever driving it.

Point is BMW won't fail on every front and one thing they have pushed as a company has always been performance. They have failed us in feel, engagement and everything else.

You can't expect them to fail here.

The car is a disgusting, bloated, fat pig, but in AWD it will be faster around a track.
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      02-20-2021, 09:37 AM   #2840
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Yup, all i said was the weight is going to those components.

We can sit and trash it all we want, i personally hate it, you could read my posts in here, i think it's the worst car ever made without ever driving it.

Point is BMW won't fail on every front and one thing they have pushed as a company has always been performance. They have failed us in feel, engagement and everything else.

You can't expect them to fail here.

The car is a disgusting, bloated, fat pig, but in AWD it will be faster around a track.
The G8X does not have more go-fast goodies than the F8X has. The G8X is heavier because it is based off a bigger and heavier chassis and because they invested less effort in keeping the weight down.

I seriously doubt an AWD G82competition will be faster around a track than a F82cs on the same tires. Power-to-weight says so.
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Looks like Press Testing is currently happening. BMWBlog has been posting G8X content on Instagram at a track with other BMW models (new and classic).

https://instagram.com/bmwblog?igshid=1dw0rxh49mhpp
They say drive content/review embargo until mid-March.
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There are many flaws in his write up. IMO the real world weight diference will be more in the 200~300lb range.
I saw the thread, starting writing exactly what you've written and then realised I've become too tired of arguing with people. Some people just want to hear what they want to hear. Arguing in a weight thread about the meaning of words...

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They say drive content/review embargo until mid-March.
And it's only what seems to be a BMW NA event. Europe is still very much shut.
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      02-20-2021, 04:03 PM   #2843
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The G8X does not have more go-fast goodies than the F8X has. The G8X is heavier because it is based off a bigger and heavier chassis and because they invested less effort in keeping the weight down.

I seriously doubt an AWD G82competition will be faster around a track than a F82cs on the same tires. Power-to-weight says so.
This would be even more surprising to me than the new styling and marketing. A new model MUST outperform previous models AND successfully compete against competitors updated models.
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      02-20-2021, 04:04 PM   #2844
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The car is a disgusting, bloated, fat pig, but in AWD it will be faster around a track.
M8 competition coupe AWD is SLOWER than M6 competition Gran Coupe RWD despite having more power, lapped by the same driver. I am thinking this is likely the result of AWD ZF8's parasitic loss at higher speeds vs. RWD DCT.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs
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This would be even more surprising to me than the new styling and marketing. A new model MUST outperform previous models AND successfully compete against competitors updated models.
The RWD G8X will outperform the base and competition F8X.
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The RWD G8X will outperform the base and competition F8X.
I am thinking getting a base RWD 6MT and swapping in competition DME may achieve the full beans package with a little bit of tweak. Not sure if BM3 is available for this gen.
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Saw the red G80 this morning on the west side highway heading into Manhattan with jersey places. It as hauling ass down the highway. The front in my rear view mirror was just as ugly in person. When it passed me the rear looked ok but it def didn't make me want to buy one.
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How in the wide world of sports do we not have a single review of this car????? There are tons of static displays at dealers and now they are being seen on the road. But no journalist or YouTube “expert” reviews.
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How in the wide world of sports do we not have a single review of this car????? There are tons of static displays at dealers and now they are being seen on the road. But no journalist or YouTube “expert” reviews.
^Still this, it has to be intentional at this point.
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How in the wide world of sports do we not have a single review of this car????? There are tons of static displays at dealers and now they are being seen on the road. But no journalist or YouTube "expert" reviews.
Probably because of a press embargo......like always! Of course it's intentional. Once the car is officially available we'll see all of the reviews flood the internet.
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      02-20-2021, 06:34 PM   #2851
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Car is so ugly no one wants to review it is the prevailing theory.

Bmw is trying to get it reviewed but the last 3 journalists who got close to testing this abomination were rendered blind when their eyes hit the grill sadly.
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Probably because of a press embargo......like always! Of course it's intentional. Once the car is officially available we'll see all of the reviews flood the internet.
In the past reviews were released in advance of the car being officially available. One of the purposes of reviews is to build hype and sales
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Probably because of a press embargo......like always! Of course it's intentional. Once the car is officially available we'll see all of the reviews flood the internet.
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In the past reviews were released in advance of the car being officially available. One of the purposes of reviews is to build hype and sales
Exactly: the embargo is before the reveal and launch, not delivery!

Especially for an ///M car: they have press events in some city in Spain or somesuch, fly in 100 journalists, they all drive it, photo it, etc ... then they go to a track and all drive it there, then embargo the content until the launch. The reviews, video, pics, and media are then used by the car manufacturer as "earned media", i.e., free advertising.

The only reason an automaker would turn away earned media is if they didn't like what some (or much) of the media was saying.

If these reviews turn out to be great, then BMW is incredibly stupid for ignoring earned media; but if the reviews aren't great then it all makes sense.

And if the G8x reviews aren't extra awesome ... then this stinker will turn into a flaming stinker...
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Probably because of a press embargo......like always! Of course it's intentional. Once the car is officially available we'll see all of the reviews flood the internet.
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In the past reviews were released in advance of the car being officially available. One of the purposes of reviews is to build hype and sales
Exactly: the embargo is before the reveal and launch, not delivery!

Especially for an ///M car: they have press events in some city in Spain or somesuch, fly in 100 journalists, they all drive it, photo it, etc ... then they go to a track and all drive it there, then embargo the content until the launch. The reviews, video, pics, and media are then used by the car manufacturer as "earned media", i.e., free advertising.

The only reason an automaker would turn away earned media is if they didn't like what some (or much) of the media was saying.

If these reviews turn out to be great, then BMW is incredibly stupid for ignoring earned media; but if the reviews aren't great then it all makes sense.

And if the G8x reviews aren't extra awesome ... then this stinker will turn into a flaming stinker...
Let's hope you're pleasantly surprised Gruss.
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G8x just sooooo tragically heinous



t-minus 1 month to "front plate mod" that hides the entire lower section of the kidneys with people rushing to bolt on that front plate.

The bumper mods will be overwhelming ...
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G8x just sooooo tragically heinous

One looks extremely angry and the other just looks slightly perturbed.
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One looks extremely angry and the other just looks slightly perturbed.
I think one says "I hate my life" and the other is saying "life is good"
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G8x just sooooo tragically heinous

One looks extremely angry and the other just looks slightly perturbed.
The only thing that slightly Halos the G8X is the color choice, i feel that color on the F8X doesn't do it justice.

Also i was expecting the G8X to look wider than the F8X but it doesn't, wth is that?

I guess it's only a cm wider but it's stance looks neutered. The front view of the G8X isn't even it's worse view, it's the side thats horrible
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One looks extremely angry and the other just looks slightly perturbed.
The only thing that slightly Halos the G8X is the color choice, i feel that color on the F8X doesn't do it justice.

Also i was expecting the G8X to look wider than the F8X but it doesn't, wth is that?

I guess it's only a cm wider but it's stance looks neutered. The front view of the G8X isn't even it's worse view, it's the side thats horrible
The G8X looks pretty aggressive and wide from most angles.

It's funny, that same complaint was made about the F8X in the beginning. Pictures don't do the F8X any justice any more than they do the G8X. I don't really like the F8X in most photos despite loving the car.
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Do they actually move the G80 at some point or is this another static display. Do these cars move? Can they turn? Or are they a sit still type vehicle, please make one move.
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