Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[GERMAN M3]

Originally Posted by jstein55

Just took my car in for service and they had this out in loaner area. I know some of you guys may not be MB fans but in my opinion, this is how you do an "imposing" but tasteful front end, while still honoring brand history, unlike the mess that is the G8X.

That front end looks fabulous! Mercedes did it right.

[GERMAN M3]

Here you go jstein55 , some pics of my neighbors new AMG GLC 63 after I got done detailing it. What an absolute BEAST of a vehicle.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by GERMAN M3

Here you go jstein55 , some pics of my neighbors new AMG GLC 63 after I got done detailing it. What an absolute BEAST of a vehicle.

I think you forgot the pictures

[GERMAN M3]

Originally Posted by jstein55

I think you forgot the pictures

Was having difficulties uploading!!

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by GERMAN M3

Here you go jstein55 , some pics of my neighbors new AMG GLC 63 after I got done detailing it. What an absolute BEAST of a vehicle.

I'm usually against high-performance SUV's but I do love the GLC63, and the Macan and Stelvio, but that 4.0 V8 in the AMG cars is just awesome. So hard to find a V8 in an SUV (or sedan) this small. Gonna be a shame to see it phase out eventually due to environmental regulations. :

[GERMAN M3]

Originally Posted by jstein55

I'm usually against high-performance SUV's but I do love the GLC63, and the Macan and Stelvio, but that 4.0 V8 in the AMG cars is just awesome. So hard to find a V8 in an SUV (or sedan) this small. Gonna be a shame to see it phase out eventually due to environmental regulations. :

I’m with you, the AMG GLC63 looks amazing and I’m not a huge SUV fan, but something about this vehicle just speaks volumes. Looks so much better than the X4M in my opinion. Would love for my wife to pick one of these up for her next vehicle.

[Parabolica]

Originally Posted by minn19

Hey hey hey, there is the Cayman to.

6MT 718 4.0 GTS.

Love the 718's.

Actually I'm looking into getting a 718 GT4 or a 991.2 GT3 (if I can swing an extra $50k).

[BMWM5NYC]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

The E65 had the tough job of following one of the cleanest BMW sedan designs. There was really no winning. I feel this is the same case with the G2X/G8X following the F3X/F8X.

No one I know is collecting or holding onto their E65s whereas clean E38s are still highly coveted. I had a silver shorty sport myself in the early 2000s.

E38 7series is Pure SEX. The "James Bond" 7 series is my favorite 7 series look.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Parabolica

Love the 718's.

Actually I'm looking into getting a 718 GT4 or a 991.2 GT3 (if I can swing an extra $50k).

I'm looking into the 718 GT4 as well for my M3 replacement if it happens.

There are a couple of rumors I haven't been able to confirm regarding the GT4 production duration. I don't know if my CA has an answer either but I will ask when my GTS comes.

[Tecnniqe]

The iX got the same stupid grill and same hood features as the new M cars as well so better watch out in that forum too 😂😅

[dmk08]

Was reading a thread on these forums talking about new ECUs being phased into 2021s that at this point cant be tuned in any way. That would be a huge blow to the “who cares if its butt ugly its a dragstrip hero” crew if you cant flash tune. F80s value may go up even more.

[six75LT]

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

The iX got the same stupid grill and same hood features as the new M cars as well so better watch out in that forum too 😂😅

we were told by delusional G8X fanboys that only hardcore M enthusiasts who are stuck in the past don't like the new BMW design language, yet everywhere i go (including the iX thread on here), the general opinion is not very good...

[stein_325i]

Speaking of iX, did anyone watch the commercial? Other than it being awful like typical BMW marketing these days, I have a big problem with the ending.

The commercial's message is "why not change." To get this point across they use hate messages which are obviously based off what we and many others have been saying. The final two say, "This isn't BMW," and "Go back to making BMW's," and the commercial ends at that. Pretty much seems like BMW at this point is giving us a big FU. They clearly hear their loyal (or use to be loyal) fanbase complaining, and instead of using that to better their products and keep their (now shrinking) enthusiast market, they use it as an advertising slogan, one which they then visually laugh off in the commercial, showing disregard for our comments.

To make matters worse, they are even responding to negative comments, trying to justify their actions in a corny and cringy way.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by jstein55

Speaking of iX, did anyone watch the commercial? Other than it being awful like typical BMW marketing these days, I have a big problem with the ending.

The commercial's message is "why not change." To get this point across they use hate messages which are obviously based off what we and many others have been saying. The final two say, "This isn't BMW," and "Go back to making BMW's," and the commercial ends at that. Pretty much seems like BMW at this point is giving us a big FU. They clearly hear their loyal (or use to be loyal) fanbase complaining, and instead of using that to better their products and keep their (now shrinking) enthusiast market, they use it as an advertising slogan, one which they then visually laugh off in the commercial, showing disregard for our comments.

To make matters worse, they are even responding to negative comments, trying to justify their actions in a corny and cringy way.

We will see in a few years when Tesla continues to spank them in EV sales if they change up their stupid marketing tactic.

EV market is expanding but BMW hasn't got the answer to it. iX isn't it. Until they come up with an inexpensive option outside of the Model 3, they are fighting an uphill battle vs Porsche, Tesla Model S/X.

A company like BMW will only understand one thing. That is their profit and sales. So, we will see in a few years if we are right or their design team that is giving ppl middle finger.

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by six75LT

we were told by delusional G8X fanboys that only hardcore M enthusiasts who are stuck in the past don't like the new BMW design language, yet everywhere i go (including the iX thread on here), the general opinion is not very good...

There is nothing unique about any (new) BMW models anymore.

All based on the same platform it seems like, more or less identical inside and outside and by the feels of it, not the 'ultimate driving machine' anymore and far from it at that, it don't stand out anymore. Just slap on a different badge on a differently sized car and call it the day.

My family have been all out BMW since I can remember and everyone got one but we're all on the same page regarding the new "lifestyle" ""design"" language they got going on and my dad is moving to Merc next, something neither of us imagined would happen.

I'm just lucky I got a non OPF F8X that I can hopefully keep for a very long time without too many issues because this might be the last BMW I'll ever get if this is how it's going to keep progressing, end of an era.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

There is nothing unique about any (new) BMW models anymore.

All based on the same platform it seems like, more or less identical inside and outside and by the feels of it, not the 'ultimate driving machine' anymore and far from it at that, it don't stand out anymore. Just slap on a different badge on a differently sized car and call it the day.

My family have been all out BMW since I can remember and everyone got one but we're all on the same page regarding the new "lifestyle" ""design"" language they got going on and my dad is moving to Merc next, something neither of us imagined would happen.

I'm just lucky I got a non OPF F8X that I can hopefully keep for a very long time without too many issues because this might be the last BMW I'll ever get if this is how it's going to keep progressing, end of an era.

You hit the nail on the head, BMW is becoming ordinary and ugly. They still make some good products, but there is a lack of emotional appeal, and they are the "sensible" choice. The products are not very compelling. The G20 for example, it drives decently, but there is nothing about that car that excites me. Even with the E83 X3 and E53/70 X5/6, they made those two ton SUV's compelling because they drove well despite its form factor.

Like your father, I also moved to Mercedes. My first non-BMW in 20+ years. My father has had 5-series for decades, and he stopped with the E60, which he still has today. I inherited my mother's G30, and wow did that car suck. It was a nice luxury car, but a 5-series? Nope, that car handled like a Buick, and this was not a stripper model, but a loaded 40i. I was shocked when I test drove an E53 and CLS53 to see that MB tuned the chassis, steering and brakes much better than BMW, excelling at the luxury-sport balance that the 5er use to master.

Its a bit sad, I always try to root for BMW. I have so much history with the brand. I grew up with them, bought them for decades, recommended them to friends, tracked them, went to all the BMW events, met many people in the community, I even met my wife because I sold her my 3-series and then got my stepson into the brand when I bought him a 3-series to learn manual on and then I got him an X3 after someone hit him because he really loved his BMW, but they just keep letting me down. I keep saying, there's no way they can top themselves on how bad things are getting, and then they do. I answer every survey, phone call, dealer question about what I want them to change, and well... they see my complaints, and then just ignore them. I am clearly not the buyer BMW seems to care about anymore. Its a shame, but there will always be another brand out there, and right now, I am looking at different ones.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by jstein55

You hit the nail on the head, BMW is becoming ordinary and ugly. They still make some good products, but there is a lack of emotional appeal, and they are the "sensible" choice. The products are not very compelling. The G20 for example, it drives decently, but there is nothing about that car that excites me. Even with the E83 X3 and E53/70 X5/6, they made those two ton SUV's compelling because they drove well despite its form factor.

Like your father, I also moved to Mercedes. My first non-BMW in 20+ years. My father has had 5-series for decades, and he stopped with the E60, which he still has today. I inherited my mother's G30, and wow did that car suck. It was a nice luxury car, but a 5-series? Nope, that car handled like a Buick, and this was not a stripper model, but a loaded 40i. I was shocked when I test drove an E53 and CLS53 to see that MB tuned the chassis, steering and brakes much better than BMW, excelling at the luxury-sport balance that the 5er use to master.

Its a bit sad, I always try to root for BMW. I have so much history with the brand. I grew up with them, bought them for decades, recommended them to friends, tracked them, went to all the BMW events, met many people in the community, I even met my wife because I sold her my 3-series and then got my stepson into the brand when I bought him a 3-series to learn manual on and then I got him an X3 after someone hit him because he really loved his BMW, but they just keep letting me down. I keep saying, there's no way they can top themselves on how bad things are getting, and then they do. I answer every survey, phone call, dealer question about what I want them to change, and well... they see my complaints, and then just ignore them. I am clearly not the buyer BMW seems to care about anymore. Its a shame, but there will always be another brand out there, and right now, I am looking at different ones.

Well said. I'm in a similar boat. My wife and I have a lot of history with the brand and I'm about to dump them. Sad.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Arcades

We will see in a few years when Tesla continues to spank them in EV sales if they change up their stupid marketing tactic.

EV market is expanding but BMW hasn't got the answer to it. iX isn't it. Until they come up with an inexpensive option outside of the Model 3, they are fighting an uphill battle vs Porsche, Tesla Model S/X.

A company like BMW will only understand one thing. That is their profit and sales. So, we will see in a few years if we are right or their design team that is giving ppl middle finger.

This. I can't see them recovering at the rate they've been going for the past few years. They are losing enthusiasts=goodbye M. The customers they think will buy their EV line is already in a Tesla who will just progress more and more while BMW thinks bringing out another fox tiger lion edition is a good idea.If I was in the market for a 3/5/7 series I would absolutely go Benz. Even Audi since their cars look infinitely better. There's a lot of alternatives to look at now. Either way they are dumb as rocks or choosing to ignore what's literally in front of their eyes.

[Parabolica]

Originally Posted by rjd598

This. I can't see them recovering at the rate they've been going for the past few years. They are losing enthusiasts=goodbye M. The customers they think will buy their EV line is already in a Tesla who will just progress more and more while BMW thinks bringing out another fox tiger lion edition is a good idea.If I was in the market for a 3/5/7 series I would absolutely go Benz. Even Audi since their cars look infinitely better. There's a lot of alternatives to look at now. Either way they are dumb as rocks or choosing to ignore what's literally in front of their eyes.

BMW M is now a disgrace.

M3/4 - no way.
M5 - this is quite a nice package except for the transmission. For the same money, I'd pick up a Panamera with a fabulous PDK.
M8 - no way. Too heavy, not the greatest looker. For the same money, I'd grab a 911.

The M2 is the only saving grace but even then the competition is probably ahead.

Gone are the days when the M lineup was the top of the class.

[Darth One]

Originally Posted by jstein55

I even met my wife because I sold her my 3-series

Nice story. Hopefully neither choice ended up being a lemon for her

[Sassicaia]

Originally Posted by jstein55

Speaking of iX, did anyone watch the commercial? Other than it being awful like typical BMW marketing these days, I have a big problem with the ending.

The commercial's message is "why not change." To get this point across they use hate messages which are obviously based off what we and many others have been saying. The final two say, "This isn't BMW," and "Go back to making BMW's," and the commercial ends at that. Pretty much seems like BMW at this point is giving us a big FU. They clearly hear their loyal (or use to be loyal) fanbase complaining, and instead of using that to better their products and keep their (now shrinking) enthusiast market, they use it as an advertising slogan, one which they then visually laugh off in the commercial, showing disregard for our comments.

To make matters worse, they are even responding to negative comments, trying to justify their actions in a corny and cringy way.

So new strategy is to insult the base of loyal customers and people giving feedback. Nice

The current cuck state of BMW is pretty sad.

[Mavus]

well said gents

I am strugling to find a replacement for my e90. May have to go to 2 cars, dd and P