Should I consider the M4?

[Never_Enough]

I'll be in the market for a new toy in the near future to replace my old C6Z.

Not considering the M3 because I prefer the look of the M4. My main concern is straight line speed for whatever I get. Has to run 11s or better & auto trans.

I'm also considering cars like the Charger Hellcat, 6th gen ZL1, boosted S550 Mustang, boosted 6th gen Camaro SS, Gen2 CTS-V, C7 Corvette, built C6 Corvette, F-Type V8 S, etc. Buying used or maybe lease new if the deal is awesome, but won't be purchasing new no matter what. I have the Jetta to use as a bad weather daily, the Speed6 is for sale no matter what &, if I end up in a convertible, I might also sell the Miata.

So what are the pros & cons of having an M4?

[Clark_Kent]

The cars you listed are very different from the M4. With your main concern being straight line speed the M4 is not the vehicle for you. You can achieve superior straight line speed from a number of the vehicles you mentioned for far cheaper (total cost of ownership) than an M4.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

The cars you listed are very different from the M4. With your main concern being straight line speed the M4 is not the vehicle for you. You can achieve superior straight line speed from a number of the vehicles you mentioned for far cheaper (total cost of ownership) than an M4.

I'm aware it's not the fastest.

[Darth One]

is a "C6Z" a C6 Corvette ZO6? if so, i would say you already have one of the highest bang-for-buck quarter mile cars. mod it if you're bored with it.

if you really want a change, then get a Hellcat or ZL1. i agree that the M4 doesn't sound like it's the best car for your needs, although you can make it run 11's .

[gatorfast]

Agree M4 is not the way to go based on your needs. I would go with American muscle.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Darth One

is a "C6Z" a C6 Corvette ZO6? if so, i would say you already have one of the highest bang-for-buck quarter mile cars. mod it if you're bored with it.

if you really want a change, then get a Hellcat or ZL1. i agree that the M4 doesn't sound like it's the best car for your needs, although you can make it run 11's .

Yes, C6 Z06. Also, reread. I sold the car.

What does it need for 11s? You guys must not like your M4

[Circuit Hunter]

a sticky tire should do the trick.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Circuit Hunter

a sticky tire should do the trick.

I want to get there in street trim. No race gas or slicks. Can these things handle E85 without a bunch of $ dumped into the fuel system?

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

I want to get there in street trim. No race gas or slicks. Can these things handle E85 without a bunch of $ dumped into the fuel system?

The car has the ability to run 11s stock. It can be done and has been done if you can launch the car properly and cut a good 60'. The trap speed should be around 116-117.

[jmg]

If you are only looking for straight line speed sub 11.0 1/4 then you don't know what the M3/4 is actually built for. You are better off with something more powerful. If you want a trackable convertible that is one of the best balanced examples of decades of German high performance engineering then you are in the right place. However, the F8X is near the end of its cycle. Newer models have caught op in many aspects and have taken advantage of its weaknesses. If you can wait a few years and have $90-100k lying around, wait to see if the next gen G8X can check more boxes for you. Rumor has it it will be 500hp+ and AWD. Then you will have a stock sub 11.0 car. Keep in mind that you are paying for more than that 1/4 time. There are cheaper options out there. I love my M3, there is no $80k car that can replace it IMHO, it's just a good all around package for me.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

The car has the ability to run 11s stock. It can be done and has been done if you can launch the car properly and cut a good 60'. The trap speed should be around 116-117.

Problem solved. Then I can just tune it & maybe exhaust & call it a day. I'm not looking for something to mod a lot. I just want to enjoy driving.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by jmg

If you are only looking for straight line speed sub 11.0 1/4 then you don't know what the M3/4 is actually built for. You are better off with something more powerful. If you want a trackable convertible that is one of the best balanced examples of decades of German high performance engineering then you are in the right place. However, the F8X is near the end of its cycle. Newer models have caught op in many aspects and have taken advantage of its weaknesses. If you can wait a few years and have $90-100k lying around, wait to see if the next gen G8X can check more boxes for you. Rumor has it it will be 500hp+ and AWD. Then you will have a stock sub 11.0 car. Keep in mind that you are paying for more than that 1/4 time. There are cheaper options out there. I love my M3, there is no $80k car that can replace it IMHO, it's just a good all around package for me.

Didn't say sub 11.0. Didn't say only straight line, but if I keep the Miata I don't need a corner carver as badly. Considering the fact that the cars I'm looking at are in the low 50s tops, $90k is not in my budget.

[Circuit Hunter]

With a custom E85 tune by CaryTheLabelGuy (on this forum) via BM3 software with just downpipes you should see near 600whp.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1495454 10.7ET with a tune and intakes.

[Darth One]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

Yes, C6 Z06. Also, reread. I sold the car.

What does it need for 11s? You guys must not like your M4

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

Didn't say sub 11.0. Didn't say only straight line, but if I keep the Miata I don't need a corner carver as badly. Considering the fact that the cars I'm looking at are in the low 50s tops, $90k is not in my budget.

look, i hate getting into semantics arguments and almost always let this stuff go. but in this case it just looks to me like you're not really communicating clearly with your responders, and we're not going to give you the advice you're looking for.

you said 11 seconds or better. so why wouldn't people think that ideally you want sub 11.0? and then you say your main concern is straight line speed. which yeah, isn't precisely the same thing as ONLY straight line, but given the absence of any other stated factors, will be the only factor we will focus on.

and then you laugh at why no one seems to recommend the M4. because yeah, just for the factors stated in the OP, doesn't seem to be the car for you. but if you have any other buying factors, i'd recommend you state them as well so people can take that into account.

btw i did what you told me to and re-read the post 5 times. i can't find anywhere where you said you sold the Z06

[BoxKing]

I agree with everyone else and the M4 is not the car for you, but... you can get rid of the Miata if you get the M4, bc you will not want to take the twisties in any of your other cars once you have done so in the M4.

Love my car, but the thrill of daily driving the M4 for me does not come from a tiny slip of paper with a 1/4 mile time.

[jc05e46m3]

Based on your original post and further commentary, I would recommend the hellcat. I absolutely hate typing that, but its good bang for the buck. You're used to a C6Z interior, so should have no issues there. Here's why:
Stock form can meet your speed requirements
Straight line speed is great
You can get the auto and it can handle it
You dont need to worry about modding it to get the power you need right off the bat and the value will hold at current prices for a little bit longer.
When you get bore of it in stock form, you can get a good exhaust. When exhaust is not enough, you can get bigger injectors, pulley, intake, etc. and add a ton of power


OR, you can up the budget, buy my RS7 and have all of the above, plus luxury and comfort, and when you get bored, you can throw on downpipes and a simple tune and crush almost anything around... unless you have a ton of heavily modded cars around you.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by jc05e46m3

Based on your original post and further commentary, I would recommend the hellcat. I absolutely hate typing that, but its good bang for the buck. You're used to a C6Z interior, so should have no issues there. Here's why:
Stock form can meet your speed requirements
Straight line speed is great
You can get the auto and it can handle it
You dont need to worry about modding it to get the power you need right off the bat and the value will hold at current prices for a little bit longer.
When you get bore of it in stock form, you can get a good exhaust. When exhaust is not enough, you can get bigger injectors, pulley, intake, etc. and add a ton of power


OR, you can up the budget, buy my RS7 and have all of the above, plus luxury and comfort, and when you get bored, you can throw on downpipes and a simple tune and crush almost anything around... unless you have a ton of heavily modded cars around you.

RS7 is out of budget

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

RS7 is out of budget

HC it is!

[Never_Enough]

I'm still going to test drive an M4. Can't hurt

[nicknaz]

Why'd you sell the C6Z?

You should go for it. It's a fun car and out of the box held back by the PSS tires

[jc05e46m3]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

I'm still going to test drive an M4. Can't hurt

Definitely doesn't hurt. Having owned one a few years back, I can tell you that you will likely be highly disappointed in straight line speed in stock from. Tons of aftermarket nowadays via BEF, bolt-ons, E85, and PURE Turbos, but now youre adding more $$$$ to the expense line.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Why'd you sell the C6Z?

You should go for it. It's a fun car and out of the box held back by the PSS tires

Sold it to free up more $ to buy a house, but the market is stupid high so I'm likely not buying now & putting it off so I'll buy another toy as the withdrawal is too strong.