They really shouldn't let people test drive a Porsche

[97supratt]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Agreed. Porsche takes care of owners.

An acquitance had engine mounts fail on his 964 (which was many many years out of warranty) after dealer replaced them. Caused the engine to drop on the track.

Full repair cost good willed, plus 10 DEs worth of entry fees as apology

Now that's customer service.

[adc]

Originally Posted by Nikolas

There was plenty of that! Trust me!
Mine was an early production and Porsche spoiled us for all the issues. I received $2000/month for each year the car was delayed from the fires (6 months), full reimbursement for the 18 way seats ($2600), full weekend at the Atlanta Experience Center before it was opened to the public, and they gave me a brand new Carrera S to drive for 4 months until my car arrived.

I can't think of any other company that would do that? Then I sold the car 2 years later for MSRP. Probably the best investment in many years!

My friend was supposed to get his car delivered in a few weeks, then got a note it was cancelled, then nothing but dead silence for a couple of months, so he gave up his slot.

Many possibilities, sometimes you fall in the good graces and sometimes not. And perhaps how you talk to them matters as well, I know it does with BMW.

[bd307]

Congratulations on the purchase and your patience has paid off! Enjoy it big time!

[MaynardZed]

Update: Got the 991.1 GTS down to the track for a quick morning test and tune and it was amazing. I was 1-2 seconds faster in it than my old M4, IN THE RAIN, 100% stock! LOL! I left the Porsche TC system on and its fucking cheating, lol! Here's the two videos in both cars for comparison:

991.1 with TC on. Its lets you slide, just saves you from getting too out of shape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=tYEs6aQcQl8

M4 with pads and tires, all DSC off:

[996ttelise]

Originally Posted by MaynardZed

Update: Got the 991.1 GTS down to the track for a quick morning test and tune and it was amazing. I was 1-2 seconds faster in it than my old M4, IN THE RAIN, 100% stock! LOL! I left the Porsche TC system on and its fucking cheating, lol! Here's the two videos in both cars for comparison:

991.1 with TC on. Its lets you slide, just saves you from getting too out of shape:

M4 with pads and tires, all DSC off:

Lol, at the Fleetwood Mack. I kind of like that for a little R&R while taking a Sunday cruise at 10/10s around the track. Reminded me that for several years I would listen to TI What You Know About That . . . that was calming to me and got me in the zone . . .

Much to the chagrin of others on here, I have commented in the past about how poor the BMW electronics/TC are compared to those on the 911.

The 991.1 GTS is such a well balanced joy to drive. The wider stance in the front and the chassis set up did a wonderful job eliminating understeer.

[maniz]

Loved the videos. Music though...cars make decent music on their own on a track. Was it captured that way in-car or dubbed afterwards?

[48Laws]

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

Wait what? You sold your M4 for a Carrera GTS? Why man? The only Porsche I'd trade my M4 for is a 911 Carrera.

I mean it has less power than your M4 I'm interested in knowing your reasons.

On a positive note though, that Porsche looks sick man and the color is just stunning!

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[mmmmQuattro]

Videos make it look like you are having some fun
The 911 certainly looks a bit more cosy in the cabin.
What tyres are you running now vs in the M4 ?
Have you changed those tail-lights yet?

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by maniz

Loved the videos. Music though...cars make decent music on their own on a track. Was it captured that way in-car or dubbed afterwards?

Yeah, added afterwards. The car sounds great on its own like you said.

Originally Posted by mmmmQuattro

Videos make it look like you are having some fun
The 911 certainly looks a bit more cosy in the cabin.
What tyres are you running now vs in the M4 ?
Have you changed those tail-lights yet?

I actually fit better in the Porsche than the M4. Looks tighter probably because of camera location. Hung camera from the sunroof in Porsche. I had to attach the camera to rear side window in M4 since no sunroof.

Porsche is 100% stock including the Pirelli Pzero summer tire. 220 tread wear rating. I had R888R's on the M4 in that video.


I haven't switched those tail lights yet. I found out you can buy the red GT3 RS ones which aren't as bright red as the Carrera ones so I'll probably put those in. At $900 for the pair, I might need to wait a bit, lol!

The one other kind of gawdy thing on this Porsche I'm not sure I'm a fan of are the factory orange vents in the cabin. (Cover you children's eyes):

[p912guy]

Originally Posted by MaynardZed

Yeah, added afterwards. The car sounds great on its own like you said.



I actually fit better in the Porsche than the M4. Looks tighter probably because of camera location. Hung camera from the sunroof in Porsche. I had to attach the camera to rear side window in M4 since no sunroof.

Porsche is 100% stock including the Pirelli Pzero summer tire. 220 tread wear rating. I had R888R's on the M4 in that video.
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I haven't switched those tail lights yet. I found out you can buy the red GT3 RS ones which aren't as bright red as the Carrera ones so I'll probably put those in. At $900 for the pair, I might need to wait a bit, lol!

The one other kind of gawdy thing on this Porsche I'm not sure I'm a fan of are the factory orange vents in the cabin. (Cover you children's eyes):
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Great car - love the exterior color, but don't think I could live with those vents. Just wonder what the "Porsche Premium" was that option and who the hell would have checked that box on the build sheet? You know 1:12 men are color blind (typically red / green) versus 1:200 women. Guessing the PO on your Porsche fell into that demographic.

[Funf6cyl]

Originally Posted by MaynardZed

Update: Got the 991.1 GTS down to the track for a quick morning test and tune and it was amazing. I was 1-2 seconds faster in it than my old M4, IN THE RAIN, 100% stock! LOL! I left the Porsche TC system on and its fucking cheating, lol! Here's the two videos in both cars for comparison:

991.1 with TC on. Its lets you slide, just saves you from getting too out of shape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=tYEs6aQcQl8

M4 with pads and tires, all DSC off:

Just think how much faster it would be in the dry and with a tire equal to what was on your M4 - all else still stock.

[MaynardZed]

Update:

I'm getting the Porsche ready for NASA TT and anticipated being able to get it into TT3 (roughly 10/1 weight to power ratio), especially with me being such a large heavy beast of a man.

Dyno was done on Thursday at a place I usually go to for my race car and is known to be pretty accurate. The Porsche GTS put down bigger numbers (about 10-20hp) than I expected and was still building power all the way up to redline (max hp was AT redline)? All this in 108 degree heat!? 386 rwhp

The torque curve is as flat as Kansas and a road course racer's dream. Consistent 250-280 ft/lb. from 2500 rpm all the way up to 7600 rpm redline. If you're not sure what I mean, basically it just means that this type of power is very easy to throttle modulate on track. No uneven rushes of torque at any particular rpm range. The BMW GTS3 guys were detuning their S54 motors to have such a flat torque curve like this, it forced NASA to change the rule book to counteract their efforts.



After it was all said and done. The car weighs about 3240 with a half tank of full. I was having problems with my scales at home reading too low, so I went over to track buddies today and got an accurate weight (his scales were just calibrated).



If you're wondering how we get to that 10/1 number. Firstly, I weigh 300 lbs and then they take an "average max hp reading" so the top 7 readings spaced 250 rpm apart. Plus a bit of adjustment for higher than usual car weight, etc.

[nicknaz]

Thanks for sharing!

How are the times in your e36 vs the gts?

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Thanks for sharing!

How are the times in your e36 vs the gts?

Too early to tell yet. West track is kind of a throw away since the surface has gotten so bad past couple of years. I don't read too much into comparing times there.

I'll be at East track in 4 weeks with the GTS and I have a lot of recent E36 race data there. Was running consistent mid/upper 1:03's on Nittos in my last couple of races there. Best lap there ever in my M4 was 1:04.9. I hope to be in the low 1:03's with the GTS, but some of that will depend on what tire I run. I'm not sure if I can make TT3 with the Hoosier penalty.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by 996ttelise

Much to the chagrin of others on here, I have commented in the past about how poor the BMW electronics/TC are compared to those on the 911.

Not just Porsche either, also behind the lowly US domestic brands of GM and Ford. Also in overall suspension tech/tuning.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by minn19

Not just Porsche either, also behind the lowly US domestic brands of GM and Ford. Also in overall suspension tech/tuning.

Maybe in your experience with your mustang, but in my experience my 6th gen Camaro SS suspension with mag ride was not as good as my wife's and now my F80. Was it good? Yeah, but did not inspire confident like the F80 and could be all over the place at times. This is just my experience tho, and others may differ.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

Maybe in your experience with your mustang, but in my experience my 6th gen Camaro SS suspension with mag ride was not as good as my wife's and now my F80. Was it good? Yeah, but did not inspire confident like the F80 and could be all over the place at times. This is just my experience tho, and others may differ.

Everybody’s personal experience is different, but yours tends to be in the minority. I’m not sure what mode or if something was up, but I’ve never heard about them being all over the place. My F80 and F82 felt button down on turn in, but then got very antsy on anything, but perfect roads in a turn. The Mag ride systems give a better DD ride than any version of an F8X I’ve ever been in.

The track video in this thread speaks for itself IMO in comparison with other makes I’ve driven. The TC is programmed to kill everything even in MDM mode in my experience. I don’t like driving with all of the nannies off, which BMW nearly forces you to do (especially if you have DCT) to have any fun.

[pruettfan]

Congrats on the new car. You gave me a ride in your M4 at east years ago and I am now hooked. Have done 2 Day and Advanced M School and have been doing HPDE with NASA in my M2 this year. Hope to run into you again. Not sure my wife is a fan though :-)

Tom

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by pruettfan

Congrats on the new car. You gave me a ride in your M4 at east years ago and I am now hooked. Have done 2 Day and Advanced M School and have been doing HPDE with NASA in my M2 this year. Hope to run into you again. Not sure my wife is a fan though :-)

Tom

You should come out to INDE with ProAuto over Labor Day Weekend. Looks like my race car won’t be ready, so I’ll just be in DE and TT with the Porsche.

I’ll be at East track Saturday 8/25 with NASA too.

[pruettfan]

Originally Posted by MaynardZed

You should come out to INDE with ProAuto over Labor Day Weekend. Looks like my race car won’t be ready, so I’ll just be in DE and TT with the Porsche.

I’ll be at East track Saturday 8/25 with NASA too.

My wife is experiencing some health issues (cancer) so I am out of commission until October (she should be good by then, fingers crossed). I will be doing the NASA event both days in October at AMP. I will be looking to do some days with Proauto also now that I have the fever.

[UGADawgFan]

Originally Posted by pruettfan

My wife is experiencing some health issues (cancer) so I am out of commission until October (she should be good by then, fingers crossed). I will be doing the NASA event both days in October at AMP. I will be looking to do some days with Proauto also now that I have the fever.

Sorry to hear that OP- I hope everything works out well with your wife!! Prayers to you both!

[MaynardZed]

Originally Posted by pruettfan

My wife is experiencing some health issues (cancer) so I am out of commission until October (she should be good by then, fingers crossed). I will be doing the NASA event both days in October at AMP. I will be looking to do some days with Proauto also now that I have the fever.

Hope to see you out there sometime again, but for sure family comes first.

First TT with NASA this Saturday morning coming up. Getting my GoPro mic setup. Man this thing is loud! I put the sharkwerks side muffler delete race exhaust on. You wouldn't want to daily it like this, but its great for my purposes.