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      01-29-2014, 09:45 PM   #155
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Lol. So thread summary is... we're still confused about what is accurate
Jason should have vetted the OP better. This thread is useless.
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      01-29-2014, 10:08 PM   #156
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      01-29-2014, 10:15 PM   #157
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Jason should have vetted the OP better. This thread is useless.
Jason brings some awesome info to the forum and makes this forum a huge asset for us. But in this single (outlier) case it has caused more confusion. Can't wait to just get the final pricing and order sheets. I would assume this would make Jason's life easier as well.
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      01-29-2014, 10:17 PM   #158
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I have found the BMW NAVI in my F10 M5 to almost useless. It literally takes me to the wrong addresses. Thank goodness I have an iPhone with Google maps!! BMW Navi is now free because that's what it's worth!!!
You need to know how to use it most effectively. What I do, is use the My BMW Remote app on my iphone, find the address I need through the app, which is a google map app, and then email this to my car. 100% accurate, every time.

Alternatively, if I am in my car, I use that app (google maps inside my bmw remote) to pin point the exact address and then enter it manually into the BMW nav or just send it to the car.

I never use "points of interest" in the BMW nav database. Since the app uses google maps and it is drawn from the internet, it is as close as you can get to "now" data.
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Wait so getting a new car is not a good deal? That is breaking news to me the people that can afford this car and are buying it is because

A: They can afford it
B: Don't want to wait
C: They don't care if the price is off by a couple grand.

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      01-29-2014, 11:32 PM   #160
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This thread makes me want to stab myself in the eye with a sharp object. So much griping about what's standard and what's not and how it relates to weight savings. If you want a stripped out track car the Z28 comes out soon. For $75k you can get a Camaro with no AC or radio to weigh you down or you can buy an M3/M4 with all that extra included heavy stuff for just a little less.
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      01-29-2014, 11:47 PM   #161
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You need to know how to use it most effectively. What I do, is use the My BMW Remote app on my iphone, find the address I need through the app, which is a google map app, and then email this to my car. 100% accurate, every time.

Alternatively, if I am in my car, I use that app (google maps inside my bmw remote) to pin point the exact address and then enter it manually into the BMW nav or just send it to the car.

I never use "points of interest" in the BMW nav database. Since the app uses google maps and it is drawn from the internet, it is as close as you can get to "now" data.
I am talking about entering an exact address and the BMW Navi taking me to a destination often 10 blocks away. Frustrating to the point that I don't use it at all anymore.
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      01-30-2014, 12:16 AM   #162
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LOL, when I go on a road trip that I am unfamiliar with I do, in case there's a traffic jam I can quickly find an alternate route. I'm 34 but I'm old school. Something satisfying about doing some things the old fashioned way.
I hear you. I guess thats not much different from those of us who prefer using our mirrors than these new fangled "active blind spot monitoring" systems.

I personally love the new technology and think it makes the vehicle a better car. For most of us who aren't tracking the car for record-breaking times, that nav sure comes in handy in new areas. Combine that with the traffic-tracking ability of the nav and you've got a pretty convenient system.
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      01-30-2014, 12:17 AM   #163
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Jason should have vetted the OP better. This thread is useless.
I hope this was sarcasm.

He busts his butt to provide breaking information here.
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It's much worse.

They switched mapping companies, and they also seem to have changed the routing algorithm.



Illegal U turn through a divided road rather than taking the cloverleaf exit on the other side.



Loop de loop



Totally the best one ever. Get off the highway and back on.
Mine works perfect M6 4.2 Nav software
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      01-30-2014, 05:27 AM   #166
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European equipment lists are already out, and they have even more standard equipment than the us data shows
Not necessarily. It varies from country to country. And so far, the standard equipment is known only in a few countries. As much as I know, UK has a lot standard, but other countries don't. As for Germany, it's not even official on the BMW website what will be standard (which is kind of absurd, as it already have other countries). But I wouldn't bet that in Germany, for instance, the Navi Professional or leather upholstery will be standard. Not to mention that the base price is already much higher than in the US.
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      01-30-2014, 06:36 AM   #168
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I have found the BMW NAVI in my F10 M5 to almost useless. It literally takes me to the wrong addresses. Thank goodness I have an iPhone with Google maps!! BMW Navi is now free because that's what it's worth!!!
You need to know how to use it most effectively. What I do, is use the My BMW Remote app on my iphone, find the address I need through the app, which is a google map app, and then email this to my car. 100% accurate, every time.

Alternatively, if I am in my car, I use that app (google maps inside my bmw remote) to pin point the exact address and then enter it manually into the BMW nav or just send it to the car.

I never use "points of interest" in the BMW nav database. Since the app uses google maps and it is drawn from the internet, it is as close as you can get to "now" data.
WRONG. did you see the maps I posted? That is bad routing. Not bad user input.
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      01-30-2014, 06:56 AM   #169
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I have found the BMW NAVI in my F10 M5 to almost useless. It literally takes me to the wrong addresses. Thank goodness I have an iPhone with Google maps!! BMW Navi is now free because that's what it's worth!!!
You need to know how to use it most effectively. What I do, is use the My BMW Remote app on my iphone, find the address I need through the app, which is a google map app, and then email this to my car. 100% accurate, every time.

Alternatively, if I am in my car, I use that app (google maps inside my bmw remote) to pin point the exact address and then enter it manually into the BMW nav or just send it to the car.

I never use "points of interest" in the BMW nav database. Since the app uses google maps and it is drawn from the internet, it is as close as you can get to "now" data.
Good tip! I do have several key contacts and address stored in navi also, I.e. Home, work, Eric.
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Jason should have vetted the OP better. This thread is useless.
this. he works for BMW too. should have been done better.
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The navi in my previous E90 M3 worked perfectly. The Navi problems in the F10s are well documented. Hope they fix them in the F8x.
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Not necessarily. It varies from country to country. And so far, the standard equipment is known only in a few countries. As much as I know, UK has a lot standard, but other countries don't. As for Germany, it's not even official on the BMW website what will be standard (which is kind of absurd, as it already have other countries). But I wouldn't bet that in Germany, for instance, the Navi Professional or leather upholstery will be standard. Not to mention that the base price is already much higher than in the US.
the base price of all cars is always higher in Europe vs the us, partially due to taxes. that is not unique to the m3.

also, I will admit that the pricing isn't out for the m3 in Germany yet. however, every single place that the pricing IS out, nav has been included. in places like the UK and Belgium the cars come standard with 19s, adaptive suspension and leather instead of the cloth/leather

color me surprised if this changes in Germany.
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It shows metallic paint as being an option, if you order silverstone II it will be extra?
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"...also, I will admit that the pricing isn't out for the m3 in Germany yet. however, every single place that the pricing IS out, nav has been included. in places like the UK and Belgium the cars come standard with 19s, adaptive suspension and leather instead of the cloth/leather"

Surprise, surprise :-) - official price list in Germany:
Base price M3, incl. LED headlights: EUR 71.500,00 MT, or 75.400,00 DCT +
Nav Professional 2.390,00 + 19" black 2.050,00 + extended leather 1.850,00 (full leather 3.400,00) + adaptive suspension 1.900,00 etc. - all prices include 19% VAT.
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"...also, I will admit that the pricing isn't out for the m3 in Germany yet. however, every single place that the pricing IS out, nav has been included. in places like the UK and Belgium the cars come standard with 19s, adaptive suspension and leather instead of the cloth/leather"

Surprise, surprise :-) - official price list in Germany:
Base price M3, incl. LED headlights: EUR 71.500,00 MT, or 75.400,00 DCT +
Nav Professional 2.390,00 + 19" black 2.050,00 + extended leather 1.850,00 (full leather 3.400,00) + adaptive suspension 1.900,00 etc. - all prices include 19% VAT.
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It shows metallic paint as being an option, if you order silverstone II it will be extra?
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