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08-25-2017, 01:24 PM | #199 |
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As of this posting, almost every single 2016 with the competition package listed on Autotrader is an M School car. Please folks do not buy these cars and give BMW a reason to continue to offer these cars as barely used merchandise.
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08-28-2017, 10:02 AM | #200 |
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How many different individuals have purchased these used PC vehicles and have had problems? I'm sensing a class action ligation claim if there are enough people involved, including past model year issues.
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I do not see much of a basis for class action UNLESS the sales are coming from one dealer and all are not being disclaimed as coming from the center. The only other option is a systematic conspiracy on the part of BMW NA to force dealers to lie and push these cars. Unless there is something I am not seeing this is a hard one.
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Disclaimer: This post is not meant to give any legal advice and is only my personal opinion from my experience. I am not your lawyer or anyone's lawyer on this site. Just a participant with some experience.
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In short, BMWNA thinks this isn't a bad move for their market (the US) ... I wonder if they'll be mistaken ... |
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I hope I understood your comment right. If not, woops, my bad. Haha. I am sure there is an ambulance chaser that would like to take this to try and get a quick settlement, but as many defense lawyers do, they will try to turn over every stone in defending the case, which costs a lot to respond to. Such is the very sad (but lucrative) state of affairs in our judicial system.
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08-29-2017, 05:27 PM | #212 |
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It's not BMW's responsibility to divulge anything to you. You can't buy a car from BMWNA. You buy a car from a franchise dealer. Therefore BMW has no legal accountability as to what a dealer employee tells you. It's the dealers legal responsibility to convey this information to potential buyers. BMWNA has nothing to do with it. They sell the cars to dealers who know exactly what they're buying. How they represent it is on the dealer.
Anyone who thinks any production car is going to hold up to a year of 4-5 days a week of hard track use without issues is crazy. A race car won't hold up long in those conditions and that's what they're meant to do from inception. I don't care what you have, M3 GTS, GT3 RS, etc, it doesn't matter. You cannot compare the stress levels the car is exposed to on the track to any car driven on the street. Clearly BMW knows the cost of repairing these cars better than anyone and it doesn't take a genius to realize that's why they will not offer extended warranty coverage in any form. They know the likelihood of losing their ass on major repairs is very high and doesn't make financial sense. Take it from me, they know better than you and have the data to back it up. So if you get one at a huge discount, great. If not, I suggest you pass. But if you do decide to buy it then don't whine and cry when the car fails to meet your completely unrealistic expectations. That's why you get the discount and you get what you pay for. If it's an ///M car and was registered to BMW in NJ then there's a 99% chance it was a PDC or press car that was beaten day in and day out. |
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The PC M vehicles are serviced every 1,000 miles, that's some hard driving so a 5,000 mile PCD vehicle would have 4 services which would be the equivalent of over 50,000 miles- thus why no CPO for these vehicles as over 50k mileage is a hard exclusion.
Attached photo of a damaged M3 at the PC from December 2017 PCD. When taking delivery of my X5M earlier this month at the PC (Jan 2018), the instructor didn't have us do a cool down lap after the track session.
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05-08-2018, 10:34 PM | #215 |
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Very interesting thread as I am looking for my next set of wheels, and a second hand M3 with the competition package is high on my list. There are a couple, if not three cars for sale right now that are M school cars. I noticed this thread is lacking any updates from Datanerd, how is it going with your car? Have you had to have anything replaced yet? Very curious as to how it’s holding up. Thanks!
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08-24-2018, 09:14 AM | #216 |
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What was the verdict of this thread
was interested in this car but it was used by M school http://cpo.bmwusa.com/used/2017-BMW-...2171?zip=91335 however, its a CPO |
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Also, are you sure it's a CPO. The CPO website also brings back non-CPO results. Edit: just ran a search with the CPO filter and it doesn't show up.
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I don't think you can
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Yes you are right its non CPO ... so now give then.. should i even consider this car ? |
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