Evolve x Bilstein B6 Damptronic Dampers F80 M F82 M4 F83 M4

Imran@Evolve · 02-17-2023, 07:23 AM

Review from UK Forum:

"As posted last month, I've certainly bedded these dampers in now with approx. 1000+ miles.

The ride in all three EDC settings are harder than stock, but not exactly what I would call night and day. In actual fact it's quite hard to put into words how it behaves as the car body stays super flat (it barely rolls really) but the springs and dampers absorb bumps and imperfections on another level to OEM - I used to spend every second of driving scanning the road for pot holes and grids where as now the car takes these in its stride that I don't worry as much. I'm not sure whether anyone has left Membury services on the M4 eastbound recently but the road surface is borderline dangerous and I hit this with a fully brimmed coffee from Starbucks with my eyes not really on what I was doing until the last minute when I saw the surface holes and BOOM... coffee stays put and no nasty sounds from the suspension, happy chap. I was in shock when I pulled onto the motorway afterwards thinking how bad this would have been stock.

I have driven some long motorway journeys in comfort mode and have been pleased with the compliance, like above, it's stiffer but on the pleasant side of so. These drives have been with my wife, full luggage and our 2.5yr old son. In this mode you can still utilise the performance of the motor and really push along, I noticed during heavy acceleration and hitting bumps in the road the car didn't wallow like before and unsettle the traction.

Whenever I get to the right road (and, more importantly, childfree) I have been shifting the damping into sport mode, I feel this is not much harder than comfort mode to be perfectly honest but further enhances the steering feel and tightness of the chassis yet still retaining the balance over challenging roads.

I have thrown into sport+ mode the odd time but not really had the opportunity to test properly but I imagine this is best for track - I'm at Bedford on 22nd August so will provide more info. then.

I may have mentioned earlier than I've had Eibach springs fitted for over 2.5 years on my M3 Comp, these I have retained. I measured wheel arch gap pre fitment and today. The front has lifted by >5mm and the rear >10mm. I am very pleased with this as I felt the Eibach springs actually dropped the car quite abit and made it tricky on ramps etc. The rear lifting by >10mm is also a nice touch as I felt it was sitting a little low especially when laden.

All in all, very pleased, one of the best mods for the F8x series. I love my car even more so now!"

Imran@Evolve · 04-24-2023, 11:58 AM

One set left from the first batch! Thanks for all your support on this product. Great to see so many positive experiences.

New stock should be arriving next month.

RElias21 · 04-24-2023, 03:20 PM

It was a bit tough to tell from the pictures what the stance of this platform with the Evolve-Bilstein dampers on the MSS springs was.

Can anyone who has that setup set the springs at their lowest setting front and back and provide us with measurements from the ground to the fender. Obviously this will differ by rim diameter, so would be great to also include rim diameter. This may be a good uniform way to be able to compare the stance to those of us currently on lowering springs alone.

pmathew · 05-08-2023, 05:33 PM

I got the Evolve B6 dampers installed with Swift Spec-R Springs and Vorshlag Camber Plates. Stance is amazing!

Here is the stance for reference:

No spacers, 437M wheels with 265/285 Continental ECS tyres.

Drives so much better than the factory EDC and you can distinctly feel the difference between the modes.

Imran@Evolve · 05-09-2023, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmathew

I got the Evolve B6 dampers installed with Swift Spec-R Springs and Vorshlag Camber Plates. Stance is amazing!

Here is the stance for reference:

No spacers, 437M wheels with 265/285 Continental ECS tyres.

Drives so much better than the factory EDC and you can distinctly feel the difference between the modes.

Thanks for the feedback!

therealkenc · 05-09-2023, 09:41 PM

Imran@Evolve

Sent you a PM last week.

How does the B6 account for the higher weight (particularly rear-biased) of the F83, and thus the need for a stiffer spring, when it seems like the same set is used for the F80 and F82 as well?

Imran@Evolve · 05-11-2023, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by therealkenc

Imran@Evolve

Sent you a PM last week.

How does the B6 account for the higher weight (particularly rear-biased) of the F83, and thus the need for a stiffer spring, when it seems like the same set is used for the F80 and F82 as well?

We have not fitted a set to a F83 so unable to provide direct experience.

therealkenc · 05-11-2023, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

We have not fitted a set to a F83 so unable to provide direct experience.

Hm, ok I guess the heavier rear of the F83 might be counteracted by stiffer springs, and not related to the dampers, so the B6 would work for the F83 as long as the springs are F83-specific?

Imran@Evolve · 05-13-2023, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by therealkenc

Hm, ok I guess the heavier rear of the F83 might be counteracted by stiffer springs, and not related to the dampers, so the B6 would work for the F83 as long as the springs are F83-specific?

Yes I would say so.

Imran@Evolve · 06-06-2023, 09:16 AM

Back in stock!

RElias21 · 06-06-2023, 12:09 PM

Not too many reviews on here. Can you point us to more reviews, if they exist anywhere?

Imran@Evolve · 06-07-2023, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RElias21

Not too many reviews on here. Can you point us to more reviews, if they exist anywhere?

There are a number of reviews on this thread unless I'm missing something?

viperguy212 · 06-18-2023, 10:25 AM

Hi Imran, looking at these as an alternative to my stock setup which leaves a lot to be desired. Most notably the rebound.

I also have some pretty harsh roads here so I'm not interested in lowering the car all that much. Outside of stock springs, are there any others you recommend pairing with?

RElias21 · 06-18-2023, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viperguy212

Hi Imran, looking at these as an alternative to my stock setup which leaves a lot to be desired. Most notably the rebound.

I also have some pretty harsh roads here so I'm not interested in lowering the car all that much. Outside of stock springs, are there any others you recommend pairing with?

These are actually ideally paired with their MSS springs.

Imran@Evolve · 06-19-2023, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viperguy212

Hi Imran, looking at these as an alternative to my stock setup which leaves a lot to be desired. Most notably the rebound.

I also have some pretty harsh roads here so I'm not interested in lowering the car all that much. Outside of stock springs, are there any others you recommend pairing with?

MSS will be perfect for you then. In terms of ride and handling this is the best set up I've personally tested. Just doesn't lower the car enough for some people.

Sunny D · 07-02-2023, 04:07 PM

Does anyone have any input on this setup vs KW DDC coilovers? I am looking for an improvement in ride comfort while retaining the ability to hit the track a few times a year.

N44RP · 07-10-2023, 04:52 AM

Are these available? I don’t see anything on the evolve store.

2nd question, what’s the warranty? Bilstein offers lifetime if I’m not mistaken but these are “evolve”

Imran@Evolve · 07-10-2023, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N44RP

Are these available? I don’t see anything on the evolve store.

2nd question, what’s the warranty? Bilstein offers lifetime if I’m not mistaken but these are “evolve”

They are here with the discount applied:
https://evolveautomotive.com/product...ca175509&_ss=r

Bilstein UK/Germany actually provide 2 years warranty which is what we provide.

N44RP · 07-10-2023, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

They are here with the discount applied:
https://evolveautomotive.com/product...ca175509&_ss=r

Bilstein UK/Germany actually provide 2 years warranty which is what we provide.

Imran,

I see a lifetime warranty in bimmerworlds description of the standard B6 set up for the F8X. This jives with my recollection of both bilstein and KW offering lifetime warranties to the original purchaser of their suspensions.

Where does the discrepancy lie? Is it with the distinction of bilstein UK versus US? (if there is one)

https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspension-Steering/BMW-Bilstein-Shocks-Struts/Bilstein-B6-DampTronic-Shock-Strut-Package-Set-F8X-M3-M4.html

N44RP · 07-11-2023, 07:45 AM

Also in addition to the other questions Imran

Did you guys ever develop a B8 shock to run with the MSS HAS spring kit?

Do you guys offer any packages for the MSS HAS and B6 dampener that you sell?

Imran@Evolve · 07-11-2023, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N44RP

Imran,

I see a lifetime warranty in bimmerworlds description of the standard B6 set up for the F8X. This jives with my recollection of both bilstein and KW offering lifetime warranties to the original purchaser of their suspensions.

Where does the discrepancy lie? Is it with the distinction of bilstein UK versus US? (if there is one)

https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensi...F8X-M3-M4.html

Bilstein US are taking this responsibility on their own head. UK nor Germany provide this.

Imran@Evolve · 07-11-2023, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N44RP

Also in addition to the other questions Imran

Did you guys ever develop a B8 shock to run with the MSS HAS spring kit?

Do you guys offer any packages for the MSS HAS and B6 dampener that you sell?

This works with the MSS HAS Kit. There are pictures early on in this thread with them fitted.

There is no B8 - only B6.

We can offer a package deal please email the sales team on sales@evolveautomtoive.com for a quote.

02-17-2023, 07:23 AM	#89
Imran@Evolve BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 5365 Rep 3,789 Posts Drives: All of them Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bedfordshire UK iTrader: (0)	Review from UK Forum: "As posted last month, I've certainly bedded these dampers in now with approx. 1000+ miles. The ride in all three EDC settings are harder than stock, but not exactly what I would call night and day. In actual fact it's quite hard to put into words how it behaves as the car body stays super flat (it barely rolls really) but the springs and dampers absorb bumps and imperfections on another level to OEM - I used to spend every second of driving scanning the road for pot holes and grids where as now the car takes these in its stride that I don't worry as much. I'm not sure whether anyone has left Membury services on the M4 eastbound recently but the road surface is borderline dangerous and I hit this with a fully brimmed coffee from Starbucks with my eyes not really on what I was doing until the last minute when I saw the surface holes and BOOM... coffee stays put and no nasty sounds from the suspension, happy chap. I was in shock when I pulled onto the motorway afterwards thinking how bad this would have been stock. I have driven some long motorway journeys in comfort mode and have been pleased with the compliance, like above, it's stiffer but on the pleasant side of so. These drives have been with my wife, full luggage and our 2.5yr old son. In this mode you can still utilise the performance of the motor and really push along, I noticed during heavy acceleration and hitting bumps in the road the car didn't wallow like before and unsettle the traction. Whenever I get to the right road (and, more importantly, childfree) I have been shifting the damping into sport mode, I feel this is not much harder than comfort mode to be perfectly honest but further enhances the steering feel and tightness of the chassis yet still retaining the balance over challenging roads. I have thrown into sport+ mode the odd time but not really had the opportunity to test properly but I imagine this is best for track - I'm at Bedford on 22nd August so will provide more info. then. I may have mentioned earlier than I've had Eibach springs fitted for over 2.5 years on my M3 Comp, these I have retained. I measured wheel arch gap pre fitment and today. The front has lifted by >5mm and the rear >10mm. I am very pleased with this as I felt the Eibach springs actually dropped the car quite abit and made it tricky on ramps etc. The rear lifting by >10mm is also a nice touch as I felt it was sitting a little low especially when laden. All in all, very pleased, one of the best mods for the F8x series. I love my car even more so now!"
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RElias21 Captain 563 Rep 884 Posts Drives: 2017 30 Jahre M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (1)	It was a bit tough to tell from the pictures what the stance of this platform with the Evolve-Bilstein dampers on the MSS springs was. Can anyone who has that setup set the springs at their lowest setting front and back and provide us with measurements from the ground to the fender. Obviously this will differ by rim diameter, so would be great to also include rim diameter. This may be a good uniform way to be able to compare the stance to those of us currently on lowering springs alone. __________________ Previously: 2010 E92 335 (6MT) 2011 E92 M3 ZCP (6MT)
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N44RP Second Lieutenant 70 Rep 299 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: East iTrader: (0)	Also in addition to the other questions Imran Did you guys ever develop a B8 shock to run with the MSS HAS spring kit? Do you guys offer any packages for the MSS HAS and B6 dampener that you sell?
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