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      06-21-2019, 08:44 AM   #133
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Clearly, some of the Democrat candidates are making policy proposals that are ridiculously Utopian and unaffordable, but in reality, the ultimate nominee will have to tact to the center and embrace reality of costs vs. benefits. Do not believe all of the right-wing propaganda that ALL Democrats are Socialists. That is just bullshit, intended to further simplistically confuse many Americans, playing on their fears. The irony is that Social Security and Medicare, are two of the most important life-lines that many older and less well-off Americans, who are Trump supporters, depend on for their survival. I know that you also realize that both the Democrats AND Republicans are using polarizing identity politics for their own political purposes and I agree that ultimately, it hurts all Americans by further dividing us. Politicians in both parties seem to be voicing either the extreme 25% far-left or extreme 25% far-right positions on most issues, while I believe most voting-age Americans are in the middle 50% in their beliefs and positions.

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Well shit. Now both Trump and Biden curing cancer when they are president. cant go wrong

If there was ever a time for an independent to take the office, it is now. get someone who isnt fully retarded, can provide some fiscal responsibility (or at the very least the illusion of it) and take up stances on both sides' important social issues and I think they can steal the votes from the left/right crap.
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Well shit. Now both Trump and Biden curing cancer when they are president. cant go wrong

If there was ever a time for an independent to take the office, it is now. get someone who isnt fully retarded, can provide some fiscal responsibility (or at the very least the illusion of it) and take up stances on both sides' important social issues and I think they can steal the votes from the left/right crap.
Ideally, I would agree with you... But, (and it is a very big but...), who is that person? In order to be competitive, they would have to be independently wealthy to finance their campaign. Michael Bloomberg is someone who fits that important criteria, but I think he wisely realized that with Joe Biden in the race, that he would most likely split the vote, which would most likely ensure that Donald Trump would win a second term, and decided not to run.

So who else really fits your criteria AND has a chance to not split the vote with the Democrat, making Trump the winner?

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