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      05-18-2023, 10:12 AM   #23673
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Geezus, that would legit hurt, that’s violent acceleration. Obviously impressive as hell though!
Which begs the question, at what point does the typical human body become negatively affected by such violent acceleration and braking? We haven't reached the apex of these mind-boggling performance machines. We can all agree on that.
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Which begs the question, at what point does the typical human body become negatively affected by such violent acceleration and braking? We haven't reached the apex of these mind-boggling performance machines. We can all agree on that.
henry catchpole just drove the mcmurtry speirling fan car. he says he runs long distance regularly, and even that car made him feel like he was put through the ringer. couldn't even talk.

i think the human body can hold up to the G's current tires can achieve, even with downforce. the issue might be more so processing speed of our brain.

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henry catchpole just drove the mcmurtry speirling fan car. he says he runs long distance regularly, and even that car made him feel like he was put through the ringer. couldn't even talk.

i think the human body can hold up to the G's current tires can achieve, even with downforce. the issue might be more so processing speed of our brain.


The videos on that car are insane. A good watch at least once for someone who doesn't know anything about that "funny looking" car. I would love the opportunity to try it out on a track just for fun.
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People who did not grow up in a time when powerful cars didn't have traction control have no idea how fast a 425 hp car really is. The 993 Porsche Turbo had 400 hp and ran the 1/4 mi in 12.4 @ 114 mph - slightly slower than a stock F80. But that car was insanely fast.

Well, so is a 425 hp F80... with tracton control off. Turn it completely off and what feels like a controllable, fast, sports sedan, becomes a car that tries to kill you. This is why I don't understand people who build 600 or even 700 - 1000 hp F80s. With RWD, even my basic stage 1 tuned F80 with maybe 470 rear wheel HP is a slithering mess in 1st and 2nd gear with traction control completely off.

It's about as pointless as a 760 HP RWD Mustang or a 800 HP RWD Dodge Demon.
I agree - with AWD, obviously you can push more power. But, for RWD, above 500 whp is tough to control, and above 600 whp is just a waste, even if you are a super talented driver.

For my M3, I'll probably do intake/tune/exhaust. Not for the power, but for making the car sound better. F8x achilles is the sound from the factory. A good intake/exhaust combo can make it sound pretty darn good. Then, IMO, just need a tune (stage 1 is fine) to make sure everything is calibrated properly.

My E63 is claimed 690hp/800tq at the crank. I can hit a 2.9x 0-60 (per draggy). No way to do that on an F80 without drag radials. Then, IMO, you're missing the point of the F80. Different strokes/different folks and all, do what you want with your own car, etc. but that's my opinion.
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      05-18-2023, 06:20 PM   #23677
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      05-18-2023, 06:23 PM   #23678
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I know exactly where that is.

Was just across the street a few minutes ago at Starbucks (I'm a regular there). Last time I saw, that shop had a Yellow RX7 there. They also messaged me on Yelp when I was searching for an alignment as I got lazy about driving ALL the way to down to West End lol.
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Which begs the question, at what point does the typical human body become negatively affected by such violent acceleration and braking? We haven't reached the apex of these mind-boggling performance machines. We can all agree on that.
For real… if this quest for insane acceleration continues, cars are gonna have to come standard with a HANS device
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I know exactly where that is.

Was just across the street a few minutes ago at Starbucks (I'm a regular there). Last time I saw, that shop had a Yellow RX7 there. They also messaged me on Yelp when I was searching for an alignment as I got lazy about driving ALL the way to down to West End lol.
I used to go to Darin @westend but they moved to Newport Beach. That's too far. Richard @RTMotorworks does a great job with alignment. He did my last two M cars. Very reasonable pricing too. Rob StudioRSR is good too.
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Which begs the question, at what point does the typical human body become negatively affected by such violent acceleration and braking? We haven't reached the apex of these mind-boggling performance machines. We can all agree on that.
I launched my 992 C4S last fall, I didn’t time it, I’m guessing it was low 3s to 60. Maybe I’m getting older, but I think that was about as far as I want to go with a launch. More than that it ceases to be fun for me.
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I launched my 992 C4S last fall, I didn’t time it, I’m guessing it was low 3s to 60. Maybe I’m getting older, but I think that was about as far as I want to go with a launch. More than that it ceases to be fun for me.
Honestly, I think about 3.7-4.0 with a great launch on a stick is about peak fun. Getting a perfect launch and 1-2 shift in the M2C was so satisfying. I can imagine a little quicker in a quicker car and it would be perfection. But sub-3 range with an auto is just meh.
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Honestly, I think about 3.7-4.0 with a great launch on a stick is about peak fun. Getting a perfect launch and 1-2 shift in the M2C was so satisfying. I can imagine a little quicker in a quicker car and it would be perfection. But sub-3 range with an auto is just meh.
From my experience any MT car over 550 HP is hard to launch. I have recently driven a 996 TT MT with GT2 tune and did not experience any excessive wheel spin. My butt Dyno said sub 3.5 0-60. My M2C Stage 2 was impossible to launch
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I love my F8Xs of course, but I still say my most fun cars to drive were my Z4Ms. They hit that perfect balance of being quick, but not so fast that really wringing them out made it unsafe. They had just enough HP where you could flog them wide open without putting yourself in serious danger. The F8X cars are beyond that on public roads.
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https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2016620

fun read for anyone bored this Friday. Basically Jason Cammisa (of Hagerty) put a not so great review of the G87 M2 out. Forums got their pitchforks out. He responds to everyone on page 3.
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yo this thread is over 1000 pages

It is basically its own forum at this point.
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https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2016620

fun read for anyone bored this Friday. Basically Jason Cammisa (of Hagerty) put a not so great review of the G87 M2 out. Forums got their pitchforks out. He responds to everyone on page 3.
if they own a G87 and are satisifed with it, then why the pitchforks. who cares what a guy they'll never meet has got to say about it.

the dude who laughed at him for owning an e-Golf... as if that car should discredit cammisa in any way.

the whole thread over there should jerk off and calm down.
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https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2016620

fun read for anyone bored this Friday. Basically Jason Cammisa (of Hagerty) put a not so great review of the G87 M2 out. Forums got their pitchforks out. He responds to everyone on page 3.
G chassis boys overall are a little sensitive - BP (on all sides, but especially with g owners) has kind of turned way too sensationalist when it comes to criticism. Obviously the indiscriminate banning only super charged that. Plenty of people deserved the ban, but plenty of others did not.
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most of the G line just looks rough around the edges and is still expensive, so most owners are constantly ready to defend it, plus there appears to be a lot of first time ///M owners in g8x cars.
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most of the G line just looks rough around the edges and is still expensive, so most owners are constantly ready to defend it, plus there appears to be a lot of first time ///M owners in g8x cars.
Honestly, part of the reason I am growing tired of BMW is the "enthusiast" driver set. It's become some sort of mash between old prick Porsche crowd and offended woked out snowflakes. I've driven the G82 and I have a G80, they don't touch the F87 in feel or fun factor. They're objectively better and faster but they no soul. I imagine the G87 is no different in that regard. I have no qualms saying that.
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Lol. I think it’s just moment in time. Needless to say, the brand is trying (too hard) for the super aggressive styling approach. It’s not like the new gen is a pos. I drove a G82 and could not get used to it. Had a Mustang vibe. Kind of embarrassing. Probably my own insecurities haha. I saw a TB g80 on MPHAS with fjord blue interior yesterday at the dealer and it was the best one I’ve seen; like if I didn’t have an F90 I’d be considering it. It was sweet.

Despite selling mostly trucks, the thing about Porsche is they always keep the weight of the vehicles in mind, and build all of their 911s in Germany. People appreciate that, they are really fucking expensive. I also think most porsche guys also have bmw(s). They are older and knew bmw when they were a more raw rack and pinion product, so to speak. so there will always be benchmarking when new performance bmws hit the shores , just like anything else.

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