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      03-09-2018, 09:58 AM   #221
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I gotta say; if Trump can work a denuclearization deal with N Korea that makes sense and holds... he will deserve a lot of credit. Not there yet but things are moving.

Oh yeah - BMW f'ing RULZ MAN! So this post is not off topic.
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So basically a random and unplanned escalation, combined with a complete lack of foreign policy and anyone to execute it even if we had it (there's no ambassador to SK) has led to an unpredictable and potentially positive development.

It's the equivalent of taking yourself hostage and during the stand-off you find out one of your lottery tickets is a winner, but you're not sure for how much yet ... and you take credit for being a master tactician.

Axios said it best:
A senior GOP foreign policy official (whose cynicism is built on a couple of decades of watching North Korea lie and cheat every step of the way), articulated the risks in a series of emails to Swan:

"Kim Jong-un remains a murderous dictator ruling over brutal regime with death camps. Not someone who's looking for peace."

"Trump will probably fall victim to the same conceit that most American presidents do in the sense that they [think they] personally, in their interactions with foreign leaders, can work their magic, away from the plodding diplomats."

"Thus, Roosevelt and Stalin, Carter and Mideast peace, Bush with Putin, Obama with whomever. It's incredibly naive, it doesn't work."

"Trump's ego may lead him to believe that he can succeed where no one else can because of who he is and who he has out-negotiated in the past."

"[T]here is such a desperate desire for a magic solution to this otherwise insoluble problem that people lose touch with reality."
I agree with both of you. I doubt any lasting agreement will come out of this (the longest of long shots), but if it does, it will be truly be a great achievement. No matter how unorthodox the methods were to get there.

A very big IF and wait and see. It cracks me up the Trump humpers are already giving a ton of credit to him when they haven't even set up a meeting yet.
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A very big IF and wait and see. It cracks me up the Trump humpers are already giving a ton of credit to him when they haven't even set up a meeting yet.
I agreed to meet with a murderous dictator!

He can agree to meet the Stoneman school shooter to. Another Victory!

but yeah, if anything good happens, he gets the credit.
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I agreed to meet with a murderous dictator!

He can agree to meet the Stoneman school shooter to. Another Victory!

but yeah, if anything good happens, he gets the credit.
Well one will never be a problem ever again (at least shouldn't).

The other obviously can do a bit more damage.

You know I'm extremely skeptical. But, if it prevents a nuclear exchange of any kind I'm 100% supportive.
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Well one will never be a problem ever again (at least shouldn't).

The other obviously can do a bit more damage.

You know I'm extremely skeptical. But, if it prevents a nuclear exchange of any kind I'm 100% supportive.
Exactly. We're nowhere near any kind of a deal. But I'll give the guy credit if he can pull something off. I think a lot of other people will also.
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I don't know how much actual research went into this or if it is just clickbait, but BMW can't be happy that three of their cars are on this list with the 3 series being #1.

http://www3.forbes.com/business/11-c...get-rid-of/12/
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I don't know how much actual research went into this or if it is just clickbait, but BMW can't be happy that three of their cars are on this list with the 3 series being #1.

http://www3.forbes.com/business/11-c...get-rid-of/12/
Unclear what this metric actually means.
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You know I'm extremely skeptical. But, if it prevents a nuclear exchange of any kind I'm 100% supportive.
seems unreasonable, but whatever.
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Exactly. We're nowhere near any kind of a deal. But I'll give the guy credit if he can pull something off. I think a lot of other people will also.
Aaannnnddddd ... the walk-back:
"The president will not have the meeting without seeing concrete steps and concrete actions take place by North Korea, so the president will actually be getting something," press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Friday. She repeated later in the briefing that Trump would only take the meeting "on the basis that we have concrete and verifiable steps."
Because I guess someone mentioned, "Hey trump, what if the meeting doesn't work out?"

Or Trump never had an intention to have a meeting and just wanted to distract everyone from

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Just saying...Trump played the media and dems like a fiddle during the election. Who is to say he is not doing it now to bowl cut jr?
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Just saying...Trump played the media and dems like a fiddle during the election. Who is to say he is not doing it now to bowl cut jr?
How would doing anything with the media help with Kim?

On the other hand it would DEFINITELY help get Stormy off the front page... And it should be noted Stormy could hilariously take down his presidency if it's proven he violated campaign finance law... And it sure looks like he did!

Plus it's gotta be a brutal ongoing humiliation for Melania and Baron.

Trump's great at the media but he doesn't have a strategic bone in his body, so I doubt he's got a master plan, or any plan, about anything including NK.

He's just winging it
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Exactly. We're nowhere near any kind of a deal. But I'll give the guy credit if he can pull something off. I think a lot of other people will also.
Aaannnnddddd ... the walk-back:
"The president will not have the meeting without seeing concrete steps and concrete actions take place by North Korea, so the president will actually be getting something," press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Friday. She repeated later in the briefing that Trump would only take the meeting "on the basis that we have concrete and verifiable steps."
Because I guess someone mentioned, "Hey trump, what if the meeting doesn't work out?"

Or Trump never had an intention to have a meeting and just wanted to distract everyone from

I wouldn't hit that. Just wouldn't. But I get how some guys are into that.
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Exactly. We're nowhere near any kind of a deal. But I'll give the guy credit if he can pull something off. I think a lot of other people will also.
Aaannnnddddd ... the walk-back:
"The president will not have the meeting without seeing concrete steps and concrete actions take place by North Korea, so the president will actually be getting something," press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Friday. She repeated later in the briefing that Trump would only take the meeting "on the basis that we have concrete and verifiable steps."
Because I guess someone mentioned, "Hey trump, what if the meeting doesn't work out?"

Or Trump never had an intention to have a meeting and just wanted to distract everyone from

[IMG]https://amp.businessinsider.com/imag...b-1920-960.jpg[/IMG]
I wouldn't hit that. Just wouldn't. But I get how some guys are into that.
She was much more attractive back in the days. Isn't she near Jenna Jameson's she? She didn't age well either.
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Just saying...Trump played the media and dems like a fiddle during the election. Who is to say he is not doing it now to bowl cut jr?
How would doing anything with the media help with Kim?

On the other hand it would DEFINITELY help get Stormy off the front page... And it should be noted Stormy could hilariously take down his presidency if it's proven he violated campaign finance law... And it sure looks like he did!

Plus it's gotta be a brutal ongoing humiliation for Melania and Baron.

Trump's great at the media but he doesn't have a strategic bone in his body, so I doubt he's got a master plan, or any plan, about anything including NK.

He's just winging it
Come on! He didn't pay for it with campaign money just like Hillary didn't pay for Dossier...

Oh and 200,000 more jobs than expected...lucky I guess.
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Come on! He didn't pay for it with campaign money just like Hillary didn't pay for Dossier...
The legal question is whether the $130,000 payment to Daniels constituted an in-kind campaign contribution which would be a violation of federal campaign law. (and another $150,000 payment to a Playboy model for the same thing.)

Friday June 3rd, 2011:
Former vice presidential nominee John Edwards was indicted Friday on charges of using illegal campaign donations to conceal his mistress from voters ... Prosecutors say that [the payouts] were campaign contributions because they were meant to prevent Edwards’s 2008 presidential bid from collapsing if the affair was discovered.
Ultimately the jury couldn't reach a verdict in the case and the DOJ declined to retry the case.

Where Trump is in trouble is:
In a statement last month, [Trump's personal attorney] said he used his "personal funds to facilitate a payment" to Clifford..."Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly," Cohen said in that statement.
But UH OH! (see below) Here's an email where Cohen responded, not from his personal account, but from a "trumporg.com" account ... which wouldn't be bad if he hadn't THEN forwarded it to his gmail account and then told Stormy's attorney the money is ready. So he processes the payment with his trumporg account then forwards to gmail for communication to Stormy? Hmmmm.... not looking good Mr Attorney ....

So what?

Well now there's enough doubt that banking records are legit being requested ... and what if those records show that the account was a Trump related account? (Trump actually disclosed an account at that bank) And that the payment, in combination with the restraining order, was to shut Stormy up for the election? (the affair took place 10 years prior so why else do this now?)

Well then that WOULD be an in-kind campaign contribution which WOULD violate campaign finance law.

Whatever other legal problems Trump might have, I'd say this is #1 right now.

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BTWs, the funniest thing about the whole Stormy Daniels thing is how it got started ...

All along it's been highly fishy that Trump's attorney suddenly and for no reason paid Stormy $130,000 of his own money in 2016

Well then last month Trump's attorney obtained a restraining order against Daniels from an "emergency arbitrator" (<- THIS IS IMPORTANT - see below) even though Daniels hadn't said a word / had fully complied with the non-disclosure!

This really pissed off Stormy. Guys, let's all learn a lesson here: DO NOT PISS OFF YOUR PORNSTAR MISTRESS.

Anyway, it gets better!

So:

(1.) Stormy is PISSED that she's suddenly hit with a restraining order for no reason, so she ignores it, starts talking, and

(2.) Stormy sues for "declaratory relief" from the 2016 agreement Which has the effect of letting the cat out the bag because it has all of the details of the 2016 payment and her affair

(3.) Stormy argues that the 2016 settlement is invalid both because Trump never signed it "so he could later, if need be, publicly disavow any knowledge of the Hush Agreement", and because Cohen violated the confidentiality of the agreement by acknowledging it in February.

But now it gets REALLY good!

So all along Trump has denied the affair and any knowledge of the pay-out ... well Sarah Sanders is getting grilled by reporters on the 2016 agreement / payout and she says:
"I can share that the arbitration was won in the President's favor,"
wait. WHAT???

Sarah just admitted:

(1.) The nondisclosure agreement exists
(2.) It directly involves the President, i.e., he had the affair
(3.) That the President has been trying to shut-up Stormy!

I wish I didn't love this shit.

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I wouldn't hit that. Just wouldn't. But I get how some guys are into that.
I wouldn't go looking for it, but I gotta be honest ... if I was single, I'd definitely hit that. Sure, I'd like to think I wouldn't and that she's "not my type", but really ... they're all my type.

I wouldn't feel good about myself for it though.
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I wouldn't go looking for it, but I gotta be honest ... if I was single, I'd definitely hit that. Sure, I'd like to think I wouldn't and that she's "not my type", but really ... they're all my type.

I wouldn't feel good about myself for it though.
I'm awfully weird with my taste, my hot men's list is so short it's ridiculous and one of them is a woman even!
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Oh and 200,000 more jobs than expected...lucky I guess.
He definitely gets credit for the jobs... Critics would say, point to the economic policy that did this, or cite 100 years of history showing Presidents don't make a difference. I think those are both valid points.

However in this case, I think one can point to fact that business spending was sitting on the sidelines waiting for events to tell them to button up or expand.

Trump's cabinet's deregulation provided that no-new-regulations sign to invest. The tax cuts helped a little, but not the money, mostly just that there's a business friendly President and Congress.

So, no not luck, legit policy that led to business investing.

Now the question is whether Trump will fuck it all up with a trade war... I guarantee you'll see a jobs pull down in the next cycle because these tariffs have spooked the shit out of business
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I'm awfully weird with my taste, my hot men's list is so short it's ridiculous and one of them is a woman even!
Well, sure, same with my hot ladies list.

But then there's my "hot enough late on a Friday" list

And then the "yeah but I was drunk" list

And then the "that was the day I hated myself" list
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Well, sure, same with my hot ladies list.

But then there's my "hot enough late on a Friday" list

And then the "yeah but I was drunk" list

And then the "that was the day I hated myself" list
Yeah, I never had those since I learned to hug my friends when I was about 28, and before living in the states a stranger coming near me would've meant me saying sorry for bunching him. I'm so fucking closed off I've managed to have two one night stands (okay, so the second lasted for five months but I stopped listening to him in 15 minutes do it counts!) in my life and then there are the three relationships which have seriously killed my single time (from 14- 35 and counting).


But my favorite text from my uni days, I still have it saved I'd from one of my bestie who texted me.

"omg this one went bad, here is the address, I give you my first born if you just show up, act like a jealous gf and get me out of here! I wont go to sex clubs with you ever again I swear!".

I think his partner for the night got a wrong idea, I'm not at all to blame for it for sure.
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You could smell the cheese every time I opened the door...
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When I saw Bentley Bentayga have this too (w/ Bentley logo obviously) I went to do this too...
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