Oil changes if tracking car

TomsM4 · 03-11-2021, 08:07 PM

I track my car (2018 M4 Comp with CCB) at least once a month Spring through Fall and put about 5000 mi/year on it. I normally have the oil changed once a year in the Spring. I took out an extended maintenance warranty (primarily for the brakes), but the dealer (my dealership just turned over to a new dealer owned by a large company; everyone I knew there is gone) said that BMW just changed their recommendations from mileage or once a year to only mileage. That means they'll only change my oil every two years, regardless that I'm tracking the car. Anyone familiar with this "new rule", or is it BS? They also told me my brake pads are 6 mm front and 8 mm rear, but the previous dealer measured them at 5mm and 6mm, and that was before my last track day. I now measure 4mm F and 5 mm R. Anyone know how I can contact BMW directly, or should I just get a second opinion from another dealer? Thanks!

edycol · 03-11-2021, 09:06 PM

Wait, are you running on track their 0W30 oil?

N1rve · 03-12-2021, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TomsM4

I track my car (2018 M4 Comp with CCB) at least once a month Spring through Fall and put about 5000 mi/year on it. I normally have the oil changed once a year in the Spring. I took out an extended maintenance warranty (primarily for the brakes), but the dealer (my dealership just turned over to a new dealer owned by a large company; everyone I knew there is gone) said that BMW just changed their recommendations from mileage or once a year to only mileage. That means they'll only change my oil every two years, regardless that I'm tracking the car. Anyone familiar with this "new rule", or is it BS? They also told me my brake pads are 6 mm front and 8 mm rear, but the previous dealer measured them at 5mm and 6mm, and that was before my last track day. I now measure 4mm F and 5 mm R. Anyone know how I can contact BMW directly, or should I just get a second opinion from another dealer? Thanks!

I haven't heard of the oil change being mileage only instead of time. It should be CBC based off what the car says.

You should go to another BMW Dealership.

hellokitty · 03-13-2021, 08:42 AM

I would do a blackstone used oil analysis after X miles at the track and determine how much life you have left on the oil for track usage. That is really the only scientific way to tell how well your specific oil is holding up to track usage and how often you should change the oil based on track time.

icegrill · 03-13-2021, 09:25 AM

Change it whenever you want, avoid the dealership. It's one if the easiest vehicles to do an oil change on period.

SE7EN335 · 03-14-2021, 06:13 AM

I find 5w50 works best for on track. And change it every hard or endurance track session. You can get away with it for every 2-3 easy to moderate track sessions.

sc_tr0jan_m3 · 03-14-2021, 10:35 AM

Go buy the oil from fcp and pay once then warranty it when you buy replacement oil. I prolly change my oil 3x a year and still have only paid once.

edycol · 03-14-2021, 02:39 PM

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I find 5w50 works best for on track. And change it every hard or endurance track session. You can get away with it for every 2-3 easy to moderate track sessions.

On track minimum stout W40 oil. Minimum!
5W50? I think it depends what oil temperatures you are running. Grade is not as issue as HTHS. For example Mobil1 5W50 has same HTHS as Redline 5W40, except with Redline you will get lower KV100 and with that less parasitic drag.

N1rve · 03-15-2021, 10:47 AM

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Go buy the oil from fcp and pay once then warranty it when you buy replacement oil. I prolly change my oil 3x a year and still have only paid once.

Do you mail the oil back in a USPS flat rate box?

hC1001 · 03-15-2021, 11:39 AM

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Do you mail the oil back in a USPS flat rate box?

Try shipnerd. It was $12(UPS ground) to ship a 30lb box back to them. I live in NY though so its relatively close to CT.

N1rve · 03-15-2021, 11:57 AM

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Try shipnerd. It was $12(UPS ground) to ship a 30lb box back to them. I live in NY though so its relatively close to CT.

For me it's 32 dollars. Doesn't seem that feasible for me unfortunately.

sc_tr0jan_m3 · 03-15-2021, 12:15 PM

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Try shipnerd. It was $12(UPS ground) to ship a 30lb box back to them. I live in NY though so its relatively close to CT.

For me it's 32 dollars. Doesn't seem that feasible for me unfortunately.

Pay for the return shipping via pay pal and you can have it refunded. I think it's up to $300/year?

N1rve · 03-15-2021, 12:35 PM

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Pay for the return shipping via pay pal and you can have it refunded. I think it's up to $300/year?

Are you talking about this?

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/returns

So basically pay with paypal and use paypal to pay for the shipping?

sc_tr0jan_m3 · 03-15-2021, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_tr0jan_m3

Pay for the return shipping via pay pal and you can have it refunded. I think it's up to $300/year?

Are you talking about this?

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/returns

So basically pay with paypal and use paypal to pay for the shipping?

Yep that's the one!

icegrill · 03-15-2021, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve

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Originally Posted by hC1001

Try shipnerd. It was $12(UPS ground) to ship a 30lb box back to them. I live in NY though so its relatively close to CT.

For me it's 32 dollars. Doesn't seem that feasible for me unfortunately.

Pay for the return shipping via pay pal and you can have it refunded. I think it's up to $300/year?

Wtf!? You warranty used oil

sc_tr0jan_m3 · 03-15-2021, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_tr0jan_m3

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Originally Posted by N1rve

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Originally Posted by hC1001

Try shipnerd. It was $12(UPS ground) to ship a 30lb box back to them. I live in NY though so its relatively close to CT.

For me it's 32 dollars. Doesn't seem that feasible for me unfortunately.

Pay for the return shipping via pay pal and you can have it refunded. I think it's up to $300/year?

Wtf!? You warranty used oil

https://www.fcpeuro.com/page/lifetime-guarantee

Right there in plain English.

jpy1980 · 03-16-2021, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_tr0jan_m3

https://www.fcpeuro.com/page/lifetime-guarantee

Right there in plain English.

How does that paypal thing work? Does it mess anything up with FCP?

XKxRome0ox · 03-16-2021, 11:42 AM

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How does that paypal thing work? Does it mess anything up with FCP?

following for responses and experiences

hC1001 · 03-16-2021, 12:39 PM

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For me it's 32 dollars. Doesn't seem that feasible for me unfortunately.

A oil change kit is $60 something, you would still be saving $30. Add diff fluid, tranny fluid, brake fluid, wiper blades, etc to the same package and you save more.

sc_tr0jan_m3 · 03-16-2021, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_tr0jan_m3

https://www.fcpeuro.com/page/lifetime-guarantee

Right there in plain English.

How does that paypal thing work? Does it mess anything up with FCP?

Never had issues. Done this at least 5x now.

XKxRome0ox · 03-16-2021, 01:11 PM

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Never had issues. Done this at least 5x now.

so checkout with Paypal on FCP Euro
request return number from FCP
process return shipping through Paypal
done?

hC1001 · 03-16-2021, 02:25 PM

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so checkout with Paypal on FCP Euro
request return number from FCP
process return shipping through Paypal
done?

Seems thats the process.

Thanks trojan, will give it a try on the next return.

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TomsM4 Enlisted Member 6 Rep 38 Posts Drives: BMW M4, 2018 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Huntington, NY iTrader: (0)	Oil changes if tracking car I track my car (2018 M4 Comp with CCB) at least once a month Spring through Fall and put about 5000 mi/year on it. I normally have the oil changed once a year in the Spring. I took out an extended maintenance warranty (primarily for the brakes), but the dealer (my dealership just turned over to a new dealer owned by a large company; everyone I knew there is gone) said that BMW just changed their recommendations from mileage or once a year to only mileage. That means they'll only change my oil every two years, regardless that I'm tracking the car. Anyone familiar with this "new rule", or is it BS? They also told me my brake pads are 6 mm front and 8 mm rear, but the previous dealer measured them at 5mm and 6mm, and that was before my last track day. I now measure 4mm F and 5 mm R. Anyone know how I can contact BMW directly, or should I just get a second opinion from another dealer? Thanks!
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