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      05-19-2016, 02:58 PM   #221
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Love the VF Hex tune! Drove from Vegas to Cali yesterday, got it all done, then drove back home. No issues at all. Actually there is one issue now, do I buy a set of 18's with some proper drag radials like some Mickey Thompsons or should I try and fit 305/35/19 Nitto NT05-R drag radials on the OEM 19's

Looking forward to more info from you as you explore the characteristics of the car with the tune and some videos.
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      05-19-2016, 05:41 PM   #222
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Stage TWO and TWO+ are designated for off-road use only, but it seems that there is no demand for those power levels since these are cars with modified exhaust and downpipes (which are already significantly louder than stock).
No demand? Really? Look how many threads there are about quieting the cold-start once downpipes are installed or how much people spend on valve controllers to address it. Since "Stage 2" is catered to those with downpipes, cold-start is rendered completely useless and is more of an annoyance. The "startup roar" will just exacerbate it.

Numbers look great, though...certainly better than anything else I've seen on 91 octane.
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      05-19-2016, 07:29 PM   #223
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No demand? Really? Look how many threads there are about quieting the cold-start once downpipes are installed or how much people spend on valve controllers to address it. Since "Stage 2" is catered to those with downpipes, cold-start is rendered completely useless and is more of an annoyance. The "startup roar" will just exacerbate it.
We hear you.

As you can see we've hit the ground running pretty hard with this re-release, and we're doing our best to keep up.It very well might just be that the existing demand that's been lingering on the forums hasn't hit our inbox or telephones yet.

I'll reintroduce the topic of cold start at our next sales meeting and report back.


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Numbers look great, though...certainly better than anything else I've seen on 91 octane.
Thanks for the feedback!

We actually just added two new dyno plots to Post #3.
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      05-19-2016, 10:00 PM   #224
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Stage TWO and TWO+ are designated for off-road use only, but it seems that there is no demand for those power levels since these are cars with modified exhaust and downpipes (which are already significantly louder than stock).

Add 1 to your list of those who will want Stage 2. ETA 2-3 weeks from now.
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So it looks like you'd need to run MAP7, the race gas Map on JB4 to make comparable power.........
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      05-19-2016, 10:28 PM   #226
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So it looks like you'd need to run MAP7, the race gas Map on JB4 to make comparable power.........
Then the numbers to compare will be VF Stage 2+ on 100 Octane

Very curious to see how those two stack up.
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      05-20-2016, 12:01 AM   #227
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Got the tune done today by VF through Supreme.

Holy shit.

This thing is a rocket.

Step on it in S7 (no downshift) and you can hear the turbos spooling louder than the engine and it PULLS hard.

I read on here somewhere that this flash erases all previous coding? It is not true. I've had coding done before this and ALL of them are still in tact. I was actually very surprised, and yes they updated my software to the latest one too.
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      05-20-2016, 12:19 AM   #228
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Got the tune done today by VF through Supreme.

Holy shit.

This thing is a rocket.

Step on it in S7 (no downshift) and you can hear the turbos spooling louder than the engine and it PULLS hard.

I read on here somewhere that this flash erases all previous coding? It is not true. I've had coding done before this and ALL of them are still in tact. I was actually very surprised, and yes they updated my software to the latest one too.
Who updated your software? VF?
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Add 1 to your list of those who will want Stage 2. ETA 2-3 weeks from now.
Lets do this!

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Got the tune done today by VF through Supreme.

Holy shit.

This thing is a rocket.

Step on it in S7 (no downshift) and you can hear the turbos spooling louder than the engine and it PULLS hard.

I read on here somewhere that this flash erases all previous coding? It is not true. I've had coding done before this and ALL of them are still in tact. I was actually very surprised, and yes they updated my software to the latest one too.
Glad you are loving it Matt! Thanks for coming down!

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      05-20-2016, 01:16 AM   #230
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Got the tune done today by VF through Supreme.

Holy shit.

This thing is a rocket.

Step on it in S7 (no downshift) and you can hear the turbos spooling louder than the engine and it PULLS hard.

I read on here somewhere that this flash erases all previous coding? It is not true. I've had coding done before this and ALL of them are still in tact. I was actually very surprised, and yes they updated my software to the latest one too.

Thanks for sharing and enjoy.

Is your car stock? Downpipes? Did you just get Stage 1?
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      05-20-2016, 01:55 AM   #231
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Thanks for sharing and enjoy.

Is your car stock? Downpipes? Did you just get Stage 1?
Stock other than springs. And yeah I got the stage 1.

After driving it I really don't think I would need/want downpipes anymore.

And the overrun... it sounds awesome. First 2-3 miles I didn't hear any burbles over 3rd gear sport+ (ECU adapting?) but once the car was warmed up, burbles come alive at higher gears as well and it is Addicting. I've never really got excited to drive the M4 but I sincerely want to go out just to drive the damn thing.

And a big thanks to Eric and his crew at Supreme. Customer service is top notch and he has a cool shop with a really laid back environment (and a cool dog.)
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      05-20-2016, 06:27 AM   #232
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      05-20-2016, 08:14 AM   #233
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      05-20-2016, 08:20 AM   #234
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No demand? Really? Look how many threads there are about quieting the cold-start once downpipes are installed or how much people spend on valve controllers to address it. Since "Stage 2" is catered to those with downpipes, cold-start is rendered completely useless and is more of an annoyance. The "startup roar" will just exacerbate it.

Numbers look great, though...certainly better than anything else I've seen on 91 octane.
100%. Cold Start delete would be one of the main reasons I would consider swapping to a flash from JB4 with aftermarket downpipes. Its just insane when the cats are removed.
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      05-20-2016, 08:21 AM   #235
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Got the tune done today by VF through Supreme.

Holy shit.

This thing is a rocket.

Step on it in S7 (no downshift) and you can hear the turbos spooling louder than the engine and it PULLS hard.

I read on here somewhere that this flash erases all previous coding? It is not true. I've had coding done before this and ALL of them are still in tact. I was actually very surprised, and yes they updated my software to the latest one too.
Its bad to floor your car without downshifting Lots of strain.
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      05-20-2016, 08:34 AM   #236
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      05-20-2016, 08:38 AM   #237
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This is so close yet so far for me lol Rogue is just far enough away where I can't really drop my car off there for a few days to have them ship the ECU to VF for the tune.

I'm eagerly awaiting the day that I can go up and have it flashed all within the same day. I have a jb4 to hold me over until that day comes. Hurry up with those dealer tools, VF
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      05-20-2016, 08:43 AM   #238
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I'm alittle confused why people are asking if there are any dealers near them? Can't someone just remove the ecu and send the ecu to VF? Why is a dealer needed? Also, can't a regular shop remove the ecu and than the costumer send it the ecu since the ecu is not being opened up just removed from the vehicle. Or is there something I'm missing here.

I usually work on my cars myself so I might tackle removing the ecu myself if needed.

A YouTube DIY would be very helpful for the forum members that can probably tackle removing the ecu themselves but are little nervous.

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      05-20-2016, 08:43 AM   #239
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Can you run 93 on the stage 2+ as well as race gas? Can it run e85? Is there any need to keep jb4 as boost controller?
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My transmission is sitting on the floor of the shop... You need the entire thing...?
No thank you!

We'll be looking to finalize the training with an East Coast Dealer/Distributor soon enough after their tools arrive and we can schedule our flight.
(will provide more details when the time is near)

There is also a very good chance that for non-California M3/M4 owners ... we will be planning a 'Flashing Tour' where we will visit a handful of major cities this Spring/Summer and do a flashing/dyno day with exclusive dealers.
Do you have dealers in Florida?
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      05-20-2016, 08:56 AM   #241
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Nice looking dyno and features guys. Keep up the good work.
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      05-20-2016, 09:06 AM   #242
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Its bad to floor your car without downshifting Lots of strain.
Depends on the speed -- if he's over 2-2500 rpm he's fine...
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