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      08-20-2015, 02:08 PM   #89
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That second video is great. I don't believe they released the sound during the shooting of the C63S sedan video.
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      08-20-2015, 03:16 PM   #90
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That droopy rear-end (like all newer MB cars) and weird roof just spoil it for me. I've got no bias against MB cars, but this one just looks odd. I'd take the sedan.
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      08-20-2015, 05:30 PM   #91
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Both cars are great! It's very hard to choose the winner here! M4's front end is just my thing. The rest I like pretty much equally.
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      08-20-2015, 06:43 PM   #92
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Overall, it looks better than the sedan. The only thing I don't like is the rear end. Otherwise, it's drop dead beautiful! Can't wait for the Black Series!
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      08-20-2015, 07:09 PM   #93
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I like it... a lot.

Funny how it seems that while the C63(S) sedan looks quite similar to it's non AMG brother, the coupe is definitely differentiated. I'm a fan!
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      08-20-2015, 07:36 PM   #94
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Like to see it is not only getting the 285's, but rear wheels are also 10.5 in wide.

The C63 Black Series got 285's, but they still ran on little 9.5 in wide wheels.


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The C 63 Coupé comes as standard with 10-spoke light-alloy wheels 9.0" x 18" (front) and 10.5" x 18" (rear) as well as with tyres of size 255/40 R 18" (front) and 285/35 R 18" (rear). In the case of the C 63 S Coupé, the tyre sizes are 255/35 R 19" (front) and 285/30 R 19" (rear) on 5-twin-spoke light-alloy wheels 9.0" x 19" (front) and 10.5" x 19" (rear).
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      08-20-2015, 08:01 PM   #95
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What a beauty. Wow.

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      08-20-2015, 10:23 PM   #96
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      08-20-2015, 10:35 PM   #97
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      08-20-2015, 10:49 PM   #98
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Every account of the CLA DCT transmission I've read is that's its jerky and not very good. I've heard the AMG GT DCT iteration is much improved though; I'm not sure why they couldn't put one in the C63.
The DCT in the AMG GT/GT S is made by Getrag, the same manufacturer that makes the BMW M-DCT (BMW M outsources its DCT transmissions).

I've driven the new AMG GT S at the Circuit of the Americas and the transmission in that car was one of the best DCTs I've ever experienced. It is robust and lightning fast. Race mode was insane.

The W205 C63 doesn't have the DCT for packaging reasons (i.e., the DCT would not fit properly; that 4.0L biturbo motor is really shoehorned in there).

That said, the newest iteration of the MCT in the W205 platform is much improved. I've experienced the new MCT in the W205 and it is quite a bit sharper/much more responsive in full M mode. You can stack commands as well.

Even in my '13 C63, the MCT is absolutely fine with respect to the automatic programs (C, S, S+). '08-'11 C63s had true automatic transmissions with torque converters.

Once you get into S+, you're getting 100 millisecond shifts with the W204 variant. It's in full M mode where the old MCT can stumble sometimes (particularly downshifts; upshifts with the paddles are actually pretty crisp).

Is the new MCT as good as the M-DCT? If we're talking full M mode, then the answer is still no. The Getrag-sourced M-DCT is very, very quick.

Is the new MCT an improvement over the old one? Yes. The behavioral differences are noticeable. Most importantly, the MCT seems matches up well with the personality of the M177 4.0L biturbo motor.

Just like the M-DCT feels right at home in the F8X platform; it pairs well with the 3.0 inline 6.
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      08-20-2015, 10:59 PM   #99
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What a beauty. Wow.

It does look awesome in the video... This may be one of those cars that looks even better in the flesh vs press shots.
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      08-20-2015, 11:03 PM   #100
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It does look awesome in the video... This may be one of those cars that looks even better in the flesh vs press shots.
Agree, it looks even better in that video. Looks like it means business and sounds like it too.
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      08-21-2015, 01:11 AM   #101
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Baby S coupe ... wow
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      08-21-2015, 02:37 AM   #102
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Wow, so AMG realised they fucked up on the sedan and gave the coupe wider wheels and fenders. Pretty much says, ef you sedan buyers. Would not even consider the sedan now.

This car is going to look really good in real life, even menacing....it does have a slight eggish rear end but after spending a few days with it and taking the car in, forgetting all the weird internet angles, your eyes will make their own assessment and it will look modernish and reflect what MB is trying to do "baby S Class".

I like it a lot , but need four doors, but this looks good enough to consider.....just told myself if I ever give up four doors then it's Porsche time.


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It does look awesome in the video... This may be one of those cars that looks even better in the flesh vs press shots.
Completely agree and sure this will be the case....people bitching and whining and then when their eyes slam across one at the dealership or in the streets for the first time....Oh Sh$#! Looks badass.
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      08-21-2015, 08:10 AM   #103
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my two pence worth. The car will have road presence no doubt, it looks like a scaled down s class coup which is no bad thing as I think that's the best looking car merc makes at the moment. however, and this is subjective, the scouple is a gtcoupe and the c63 is a sports coupe, it has road presence but it looks slightly bloated for its purpose, still looks good but I just feel the looks don't match its target audience, performance goals etc, love the interior but I learned the hard way with my last car I don't care how nice an interior a car has, all that matters to me is how it performs. in the uk theres hardly and difference between the m4 and m6 in price, in fact the m6 is somewhat of a bargain after dealer discounts but I still bought the m4 mainly because of the way if performs and the way the exterior is razor sharp and totally in line with the cars purpose. Anyway looking forward to seeing the c63 coupe in person, it will have presence no doubt.
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      08-21-2015, 08:55 AM   #104
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What A Nice Volkswagen CC.
Lol Trying to validate your purchase?
Lol - trying to validate your hate/trolling in a BMW forum?
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      08-21-2015, 09:49 AM   #105
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My only hate is towards the haters.

So how's your anti-C63(or Caricature63 as you prefer to call it) poll is doing?!

For those interested in participating:
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...php?p=18430179
Are you sure you don't work for Mercedes-Benz? You sound like a salesman
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      08-21-2015, 10:00 AM   #106
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      08-21-2015, 10:33 AM   #107
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Yes I'm sure, I just really really like what AMG is doing with this car. I always liked many things about the AMGs but never really loved them as a owl, always prefered the M and RS way to do things. But in this time of downsizing I got to say that Merc really knew how to kept themselfes above the others with this car. They gave everything, a very special engine that make us forget about the global warming, an interior design and built quality that would still fit in a much much higher priced car, enough performance to beat the M on its own field of predilection, the track, and finally an exterior design that has nothing to envy to the AMG GT. If it was'nt for the transmission that is not as good as the best dual clutchs and the nav screen that could have been integrated a bit better, I would give this car a note of 100%, that's how much I like it.
There is a forum where you can go to discuss this with like minded individuals. Constantly trolling here hasn't gotten old yet?
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      08-21-2015, 12:03 PM   #108
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This might be an BMW forum but it's also a C63 thread so I'm right whete I should be to discuss about this car!
Absolutely, sharing a personal (read: subjective) opinion is not trolling. This is the M3/M4 versus forum after all - and the C63 Coupe is arguably the biggest competitor to the M4.

Asking people to leave and go elsewhere who have positive things to say about the competition is childish.

I'm a big BMW enthusiast, I've owned several BMW's (and currently DD a 335i), I'm also a huge Audi fan having owned a heavily modified B5 S4 for over a decade. I've never considered purchasing a MB or AMG up until the W205/C205 C63s came out. It's exciting to see more options available in this segment - I personally think this round in this segment is the best and most competitive it's ever been... And that's a good thing regardless of what brand you prefer!
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      08-21-2015, 12:40 PM   #109
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Absolutely, sharing a personal (read: subjective) opinion is not trolling. This is the M3/M4 versus forum after all - and the C63 Coupe is arguably the biggest competitor to the M4.

Asking people to leave and go elsewhere who have positive things to say about the competition is childish.

I'm a big BMW enthusiast, I've owned several BMW's (and currently DD a 335i), I'm also a huge Audi fan having owned a heavily modified B5 S4 for over a decade. I've never considered purchasing a MB or AMG up until the W205/C205 C63s came out. It's exciting to see more options available in this segment - I personally think this round in this segment is the best and most competitive it's ever been... And that's a good thing regardless of what brand you prefer!
trust me this guy is a troll to every definition.

this is his 3rd? username and he says the same thing every time expecting a different result. same spelling mistakes, same words, same dude.

most of us are enthusiasts. he's a fanboy of mb trolling on a bmw forum.

over these months he's gotten more and more whacko.

just to clarify before he starts calling me a fanboy.

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Just like you I have no real attachment to any company, in the B5 days, the S4/RS4 was my favorite of the getman then came the E9x M3, and now I got a huge crush on this C63 coupe. I just wish everyone in here was as open minded!
It takes a bit to get open minded. After 7 BMWs and many M cars, my cherry was popped when I bought a Porsche. Downhill ever since. haha

I'm even enjoying my W205 C63. I have no idea what my next ride will be. Maybe a Saab. But I'll stay a BMW CCA member for life. Good people in my chapter.
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