Are you happy with your M?

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[mephiska]

Originally Posted by ASAP

I think if you aren't happy w the performance of this car, then -

A) You had no idea what you were buying.
B) Didn't do your research.

A much different scenario... where in this case the owner could be to blame. All test points where postsd all over the internet.

I think he means "how the car performs" in the sense of the fit & finish and quality of the vehicle overall, not power & handling performance. And he's perfectly justified in his opinion if he's experiencing those sorts of issues with the car.

[X2Board]

100% yes. Zero issues, unless you count the occasional pebble in the brake shield. No squeaks, or rattles.

I enjoy driving this car, as much as strapping on a helicopter for some low level flying.

[castilla]

It's perfect , 0 issues until now , comfort-handling balance is perfect , and power is more than enough,always spining tires
and the sound is amazing for a 6 cylinder twin turbo engine.Dont compare it v8's

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by mephiska

I think he means "how the car performs" in the sense of the fit & finish and quality of the vehicle overall, not power & handling performance. And he's perfectly justified in his opinion if he's experiencing those sorts of issues with the car.

Pretty sure I already said that...

[brianeck]

The only thing I would probably change is the CF roof. Mine rattles and crackles like mania now with 9k miles on the clock. I'm hoping when it goes in for a service they get under the middle support pillars behind the drivers door/window as I think that's where most of the sound is coming from, and then I'll go back to perfectly happy.

I am still happy as I'm a music on windows open kind of guy, but even my 99 jeep wrangler's hard top was quieter then this roof.

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by Jtjjen

It's already statistically significant with 46 votes! No need to wait for 100. So far it's 44-1 (not counting your own vote) happy with the M3/4. Not sure why you would expect anything else on this forum and from people who have purchased the car. We tend to look for reasons to validate our choices.

I had no expectations on results at all! Even on such amazing forum. Now about statistics, this poll is flawed from design but it's fun, so the more the merrier. And I wasn't out to prove any point.

[997usa]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

In the first week of ownership, less than few hundred miles, rattles rattles and rattles inside, steering wheel/suspension issues, distortion in many interior trim parts, and last but not least cracked windshield. I can go on but that wasn't the point of this poll. I didn't want to expose the reasons so people don't bash others for their entitled opinion.

Yes, the car looks amazing, awesome engine, ... And yes I will repair everything and still love BMW cars. but I am not currently happy or satisfied with my purchase.

Luckily I dont have any of the issues you stated - and i LOVE my M4 (and the M5 prior to that).... but i hear you - i had a 2013 Porsche 991 S (911 S) with rattles - it was one of the first ones of the assembly belt and wound up selling the car 6 months later since even Porsche NA couldnt fix it.... Horrendous.

I promised myself (will see how long it last) to never buy a first release again - my previous P-car (997 4S) was the most solid car i ever had - and that was the release after the LCI approx 3 yrs after the initial 997 introduction.

Sorry to hear about your rattles - i am sure that BMW will do their utmost to make you happy.

[waygorked]

I have a ton of issues with trim rattles. My 2007 335 with 75k miles is much tighter than my F80 at 1200. The quality control on the trim befits a $15k Kia more than an $80k BMW. Active sound drives me nuts, more in terms of execution than concept. The fake sound is so far out of phase with the real one that it sounds disembodied, as if the engine were in the back seat. The road noise from the rear tires is extreme over rough asphalt, and the lack of sound insulation is fatiguing on long trips. The stereo drowns this out, but the HK has terrible imaging, no soundstage, and sounds shrill when turned up. No amount of EQ can compensate for this. The traction control is too aggressive, but if I turn it off for my morning commute, I can't make it up the wet hill on the way without drifting. It bugs me that there is no way to make my preferred settings the default, and that the defaults are so bad. I hate that the cold start settings make it impossible to leave in the morning without waking up my wife. And I swear at the car every morning when I get to work, hop out, and need to unlock it to grab my bag from the back seat.

Still, I voted yes. I love this car. Some of these issues will be fixed at my next service. Some of them I will code out. Some of them are compromises inherent to this class of car. And my professional background makes it impossible for me to be satisfied with a stock audio system. But none of these issues are enough to outweigh how much I enjoy the drive. This is absolutely the best car in the class. The more I drive it, the less the issues get to me.

That said, if the rattles cannot be fully extinguished, I may revise my vote.

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by brianeck

The only thing I would probably change is the CF roof. Mine rattles and crackles like mania now with 9k miles on the clock...

FYI, at least with BMW CA, rattles/noises are covered for the first 20k km. Check if its different in US.

[rr006rbc]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

Seeing posts like this makes me believe that I am in a transitional tough patch and soon I'll join your ranks. I had that feeling leading up to delivery and then faded away. Thanks for your positive and supportive posts.

I really hope your outlook on the M improves over time!!! It really is a great car however I only have about 1600 miles on my car so it's still quite fresh. Hoping for no issues w/ it down the line. Perhaps over time I will get over it but I doubt it haha. I was still giddy about walking up to my previous car till the day I sold it (2013 E92 335i 6MT)

[Xerxes480]

Yes, yes, yes. I can sedately haul the family around one minute, then absolutely shred back roads the next. It's really more car than I could ever need, and I can't wait to get it on a track.

Are there a few rattles? Sure. Is it perfect? No. Do I still think it's the perfect car for me? Hell yes!

-X-

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by 997usa

Luckily I dont have any of the issues you stated - and i LOVE my M4 (and the M5 prior to that).... but i hear you - i had a 2013 Porsche 991 S (911 S) with rattles ...

Sorry to hear about your rattles - i am sure that BMW will do their utmost to make you happy.

I wish it was only the rattles... Cracked windshield pisses me off the most. But it looks that I am in the minority. Either I am unlucky or lucky

[Horns0897]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

I wish it was only the rattles... Cracked windshield pisses me off the most. But it looks that I am in the minority. Either I am unlucky or lucky

Did the windshield crack because of a rock or some other issue? I have a crack because of a rock and will have to replace the windshield but I do not think of this as BMW problem as much as a Houston road problem.

[04cobra]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

Seeing posts like this makes me believe that I am in a transitional tough patch and soon I'll join your ranks. I had that feeling leading up to delivery and then faded away. Thanks for your positive and supportive posts.

Read my other thread too. I was actually in a worse place while waiting for it to be delivered. Once it came, it exceeded every expectation

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1152700

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by Horns0897

Did the windshield crack because of a rock or some other issue? I have a crack because of a rock and will have to replace the windshield but I do not think of this as BMW problem as much as a Houston road problem.

So not deviate the purpose of this post please read and post here if you want to contribute more info. Thanks.
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1061685

[Devilzmantis]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

I am genuinely happy for you that your M is perfect. that grin on the face is gone every time I am in my M4 and look at the cracked windshield and hear all the noises and rattle inside and outside and yes I am keeping it because most of these issues will be fixed and then I will be able to enjoy the awesomeness under the hood. Until that point I am not satisfied and am disappointed with the lack of quality control on my M. Regards.

1. Cracked windshield.. huh? get it fixed.. its a rock! Stay away from big trucks. your insurance should cover it.
2. Rattles... can you find the specific area of rattles? I usually have loose items in my M4 that causes the rattles... but so far no rattles for me except my convert roof sometimes.
3. Distortions? Can you specify? leather distortions?

Porsche is the only car that I find that has higher quality than the M4.... but that's 40K more in the USA. Much more elsewhere.

[Bonzer103]

Originally Posted by Jtjjen

It's already statistically significant with 46 votes! No need to wait for 100. So far it's 44-1 (not counting your own vote) happy with the M3/4. Not sure why you would expect anything else on this forum and from people who have purchased the car. We tend to look for reasons to validate our choices.

Agreed, most people that might say no probably aren't on these boards.

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by Devilzmantis

1. Cracked windshield.. huh? get it fixed.. its a rock! Stay away from big trucks. your insurance should cover it.
2. Rattles... can you find the specific area of rattles? I usually have loose items in my M4 that causes the rattles... but so far no rattles for me except my convert roof sometimes.
3. Distortions? Can you specify? leather distortions?

Porsche is the only car that I find that has higher quality than the M4.... but that's 40K more in the USA. Much more elsewhere.

Thanks for your suggestions. Check the threads on cracked windshields and rattles for more detailed info. As for the distortion/non uniform trim, it's the driver rubber around the M4 door sill and the plastic around the light switch. Not a biggie, just saying there's a lack of QA.

[dkhm3]

rattles like crazy but i am overall very very happy with the car.

[Lups]

Wtf thread of the day.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by Devilzmantis

1. Cracked windshield.. huh? get it fixed.. its a rock! Stay away from big trucks. your insurance should cover it.
2. Rattles... can you find the specific area of rattles? I usually have loose items in my M4 that causes the rattles... but so far no rattles for me except my convert roof sometimes.
3. Distortions? Can you specify? leather distortions?

Porsche is the only car that I find that has higher quality than the M4.... but that's 40K more in the USA. Much more elsewhere.

You see Nick Murray's 911? And later what he said about the reliability of his M4?

Obviously outliers happen... but for a first year car, this is pretty damn good.