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Styling and the fact we know like nothing about how that thing drives
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Edit: All of my and the wifey's non M cars had less than desirable (I'll be diplomatic) suspension tuning. Those included standard xDrive F30 328,335,428 and a current M550. The M550 was a floating/rolling land yacht. Very comfortable and fast, but not very fun to drive. |
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Edit: FWIW, I think Porsche is somewhat behind in some areas compared to GM and Ford when it comes to suspensions also. Those mag ride systems are the real deal and are a great compromise for street compliance/comfort and occasional HPDEs. If you are a really serious track rat a lot of have switched those out for coil overs etc. Last edited by minn19; 03-03-2021 at 09:37 AM.. |
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And yes, I agree, too many Porsche owners are poseurs and don't know how to drive. For sure, you are faster in your ///M than many sub-optimally driven Porsches. But that does not mean they aren't great driving machines. And sometimes it is not only about lap-times, it is also about how they feel at the wheel and the enjoyment they provide. And I also agree that way too many people focus on mods to chase laptimes, but that is also very true with ///M owners. I am with you, I prefer to focus on improving driving skill, an it is one of the reasons I keep my cars as close to stock as possible (that and warranty). I guess I wanted to find out for myself before the ICE era is begone if the 911 is worth all the fuss. Being un-satisfied with the G8X gave me the opportunity to jump ship and try it out. I'll find out soon enough if the fuss is worth the price of admission. It does not mean I might not come back to ///M someday .
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03-03-2021, 09:23 AM | #3288 | |
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Weight has been going up on all cars. The 992 weighs more than the 991. We'll see how much the weight goes up in this gen. I track the cars a lot and if it weighs more it's a problem, but I don't think this is a problem for most people. The M3 has to be a jack of all trades. I dislike influencers plenty. I don't have social media. Most of the time they are people barely above the mentally challenged threshold. I could care less what any of those clowns says. On aesthetics, I don't have a problem with them, but admittedly I would drive the car even if it had a clown face on it so long as it is fast. In general I don't enjoy turbos, auto trannys, EPS, etc. But I've tracked the E46 a lot and the F8X is 15 seconds faster around a track like the Glen, I'll take that any day. The ends justify the means in this case. BMW is not able to make 2000 cars for a entire run and then provide them with NA engines, so although I'd prefer NA engines I'm ok with the turbo ones. When I go to IMSA I see BMWs there doing pretty well, despite questionable BoP moves by the sanctioning bodies. I don't think that has much to do with the street M3. |
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I do enjoy teaching the lesson that one must overcome themselves, and that throwing dollars at problems is not the solution. The ICE era is indeed ending, and with that the track things we like doing are also going away for everyone except the wealthiest among us. Sad to see. |
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It's not getting that spicy. CanAutM3 and I know each other, so we can disagree with stuff but it's never going to get really entertaining. Once the border is open again I look forward to seeing him again
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Man you say you despise fanboys but you come across as a huge fanboy. Of what exactly I don't know though lol.
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I've posted plenty of things I don't like about the G8X... not sure where you see the absolute happiness with the new gen
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We need to forge some documents so you can say you're coming into the US to 'visit your family'. Little do they know it's your 'track family'
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All brands that have a car, catering to something have "that guy". It's a people problem, not a brand problem. You have to talk down to others to justify what you own. I don't care what other ppl think when it comes to my own personal cars. I tend to say I drive a Prius, which I do. The only time I discuss cars in person are only with my select group of friends, no one else. Not even my gf as I have far more other concerns I am with her.
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