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      07-29-2021, 10:13 AM   #10363
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I think BMW is sabotaging themselves on purpose lol.

There is no other explanation for a company that had one of the best design languages of any automaker to now producing this atrocious crap.
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Not that I was ever going to buy a BMW SUV, but I thought the current designs look good.

If that's where BMW is going…

This is just embarrassing at this point
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AMG G-wagons on steelies are very cool and so are the big Range Rovers on some 22s. Those are the only SUVs I like. OK, third one is the 4.8is E53 X5, but we don't talk about that.
I honestly would take a G80 over that based on looks. That's how much I'm not a fan of those things looks wise. They remind me of German WW2 Kubelwagen for some reason.
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      07-29-2021, 10:45 AM   #10367
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I kind of dig it, especially if they made the grills a bit smaller. Which means they'll go the other way and make them bigger for the production model.
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I honestly would take a G80 over that based on looks. That's how much I'm not a fan of those things looks wise. They remind me of German WW2 Kubelwagen for some reason.
Oh, you wanna see a Kübelwagen?

X6 mule, apparently
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Oh, you wanna see a Kübelwagen?

X6 mule, apparently
That's the point, no I don't! WTF is that? Just a drivetrain mule?

If I did get an ugly SUV, I might as well get Kubelwagen and turn into a stoplight sleeper. It would be very unique and badass.
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I honestly would take a G80 over that based on looks. That's how much I'm not a fan of those things looks wise. They remind me of German WW2 Kubelwagen for some reason.
Oh, you wanna see a Kübelwagen?

X6 mule, apparently
They had to shield everyone away from its awful looks
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That's the point, no I don't! WTF is that? Just a drivetrain mule?

If I did get an ugly SUV, I might as well get Kubelwagen and turn into a stoplight sleeper. It would be very unique and badass.
Can't find much info about the weird contraption!

The original IG post I got this from said it was an X6 E71 mule, but this 2005 forum post, earliest I could find, calls it "BMW V5" aka "Space Functional Space" aka "Progressive Activity Sedan" which then went onto to become the 5 Series Gran Turismo.

Granted, it did not get any better looking. And it drove really weird. Had one for a day.
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Going back to VW and the Corrado (from a few pages back), Hagerty put out yet another excellent video about its interesting history.

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Not seen this mentioned here, the Eiffel area surrounding the 'Ring has been hit by the big floods (and other areas of Germany, Belgium as well).

This was the paddock there. Nordschleife is opening up again this weekend.

BMW and Porsche have each spent over a million Euro, with other manufacturers providing help as well. Koenigsegg is selling Jesko posters to raise money. Ford has donated to volunteers dozens of Transit vans that were otherwise destined to be auctioned off.



And Audi's PR person wasn't very thrilled their RS 6 press car was being used to help carry people to the damaged sites as it was lent just for some Nordschleife laps and other boring journo shit. They sure could've spun it in a different way and got great promo out of all of this...

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And Audi's PR person wasn't very thrilled their RS 6 press car was being used to help carry people to the damaged sites as it was lent just for some Nordschleife laps and other boring journo shit. They sure could've spun it in a different way and got great promo out of all of this...
I completely understand Audi here but at the same time once the damage was done it would've been easier to go with the flow and claim the PR for sure and do what needs to be done later.
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The Mercedes G-Wagen is unique in car culture because it's a vehicle that started out so purposeful, functional and no-nonsense that it became cool.

Now it's such a pointless and frivolous vehicle that it's cool.
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I completely understand Audi here but at the same time once the damage was done it would've been easier to go with the flow and claim the PR for sure and do what needs to be done later.
Yeah. the car was given for a certain purpose and I don't think it was communicated by Charoudin what they're doing with it, and once they saw the mud, they didn't like it. But whichever Helmut wrote that mail could've been a bit more human or, at least, be more creative. Funnily enough, Charoudin has done some paid Audi PR stuff.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRtYskXHu-o/
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Yeah. the car was given for a certain purpose and I don't think it was communicated by Charoudin what they're doing with it, and once they saw the mud, they didn't like it. But whichever Helmut wrote that mail could've been a bit more human or, at least, be more creative. Funnily enough, Charoudin has done some paid Audi PR stuff.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRtYskXHu-o/
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A little update on my car. It is now in the body shop, which means my GT4 officially has a VIN, which I have on hand. Bad news is, it seems like all the delays are in the shipping time frame, which seems to be all over the place. It also looks like they may not finish the car before their August break.

Also, I kind of understand Audi's PR but when it comes to most companies (not sure exactly about Audi), the PR team tends to work apart from the management. So, if the PR team is the one that is sending those "threatening" emails, the management don't tend to know until later. Not that it is an excuse.
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A little update on my car. It is now in the body shop, which means my GT4 officially has a VIN, which I have on hand. Bad news is, it seems like all the delays are in the shipping time frame, which seems to be all over the place. It also looks like they may not finish the car before their August break.

Also, I kind of understand Audi's PR but when it comes to most companies (not sure exactly about Audi), the PR team tends to work apart from the management. So, if the PR team is the one that is sending those "threatening" emails, the management don't tend to know until later. Not that it is an excuse.
Mine just went into production too but won't be done until late August. We most likely will be on the same boat here
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Mine just went into production too but won't be done until late August. We most likely will be on the same boat here
Is yours currently November 5th? for Port of San Diego.

If we are around the same time frame then, Porsche is going on its August break before finishing the car in September. Which... kind of worries me? Or I am thinking too much
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Mine just went into production too but won't be done until late August. We most likely will be on the same boat here
Is yours currently November 5th? for Port of San Diego.

If we are around the same time frame then, Porsche is going on its August break before finishing the car in September. Which... kind of worries me? Or I am thinking too much
Mine is 10/24 for Benicia in Bay Area which I thought was weird because I'm in SD and my dealer is in riverside but we think it's because I'm doing PECLA that PECLA cars are going to be delivered in batches through Benicia. But who knows.
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Mine is 10/24 for Benicia in Bay Area which I thought was weird because I'm in SD and my dealer is in riverside but we think it's because I'm doing PECLA that PECLA cars are going to be delivered in batches through Benicia. But who knows.
hmm o.O

It could be the same ship still though. Just different areas the cars are being delivered to.
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Mine just went into production too but won't be done until late August. We most likely will be on the same boat here
Is yours currently November 5th? for Port of San Diego.

If we are around the same time frame then, Porsche is going on its August break before finishing the car in September. Which... kind of worries me? Or I am thinking too much
Over thinking it. My understanding is that they pause production in phases, so they try to finish every car on the line after the body shop and leave the body shop cars assembled on the line (that is, post stamping and assembly but pre painting and electronic and interior assembly) for the break.

Remember the production process goes like follows
-body shop (panels are taken and assembled to the shell and stamped and welded)
-paint shop (where the cars, doors, and panels are painted)
-assembly shop (where the electronic harnesses, interior, options, and marriage happens)
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Mine is 10/24 for Benicia in Bay Area which I thought was weird because I'm in SD and my dealer is in riverside but we think it's because I'm doing PECLA that PECLA cars are going to be delivered in batches through Benicia. But who knows.
hmm o.O

It could be the same ship still though. Just different areas the cars are being delivered to.
from the schedules I have been able to find online, it looks like a ship either goes to SD or Benicia, but that was just two ships I was able to find so I'm not 100% confident in that.
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