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I had a parting gift from BMW for having the dumb G22 as my loaner for a week. I was extremely aware of the fact that the car is just hideous. The front is still by far the worse thing I have seen in a very long time and I do not see that ever changing for me. Interior has gotten better but the digital layout is still irritating look at since it is all in the same color.
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The problem with BMW thinking they're a Rolex is that there's only room for one Rolex, and Porsche holds that crown right now. Not that BMW would ever be considered worthy enough to be in that position... attainability is a KEY factor in BMWs brand. Maybe they can aspire to be Tudor - nothing wrong with that, in fact it's plenty desirable simply because you are getting performance at or near a Rolex for much less. I guess that example may not work here 100% as Porsche doesn't own BMW like Rolex does Tudor.
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As soon as they start pushing against that idea is when you will start seeing the difference between a BMW, higher-end Mercedes and Porsche. There is no better example of this than the current 8 series. That car sold so badly that BMW had to stop making them for an entire year because people weren't buying them. If that was the case, why in gods name would people pay more for a BMW if the choices you have were... better? Not to mention, hello, BMW (or any other companies) when it comes to markup, they don't MAKE the money from the markup. The dealerships do, they don't get jack from the markup $$. So, what exactly is their reason for limiting production for? Porsche has gotten crap for doing this, for limiting GT productions and allowing scalpers to buy them instead of owners that would keep and enjoy them. Now see that happen to cars that don't cost nearly as much as a Porsche and we will see how their tone changes.
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This strategy works for the CS and the Black Series. But even those exist in large part to provide a halo to sell the mass market commodity versions of the same line |
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super-nerd take: if we're going with the watch analogy, I'd say: * Ferrari = Patek (fairly unobtanium for mortals) * Porsche 911 = Rolex (attainable, if you really want it & are willing to pay) * Porsche 718 = Tudor (very attainable for $) * Mercedes-Benz = Audemars Piguet (attainable, used to be hot ... but is it a one trick?) * BMW = Omega (expensive, but attainability vs others is KEY) * Audi = IWC/Panerai (attainable, used to be super hot but now?) * Tesla = Ming (hot new thing, attainable, but low production) |
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ha, well, depends on if you like them!
The "tudor is a cheap rolex" narrative is bunk; Tudor is its own thing with its own image and features ... for example the Pelagos. For me, I like tool watches, so I naturally gravitate to Tudor over Rolex but ... not being one who supports the planned-undersupply business model, I can't support Rolex or Tudor on principle but also understand many don't have my hang-ups Also, for me, a watch isn't luxury if I'm worried about resale - the whole point of luxury is how I feel acquiring & using it, not getting rid of it. (e.g., "I've never said - wow, this 5 star hotel is sold out, I think I'll buy an extra night and see if I can make a buck selling it") I more/less began moving away from dress watches in 2015 when I stopped wearing suits - I still appreciate them, but they're not me; I like tooly tool watches like Sinn, g-shock Mr-G, etc ... though maybe Omega fits in there. I also like the JDM travel Casio toolies like Oceanus. And beyond that Garmin Tactix is on my list. blahblahblah Ok so if I was going to buy a car watch, what would it be? Well, Breitling is pretty on-the-nose there lately with the vintage Cobra / Mustang / Corvette models: And the Carl F Bucherer Manero Flyback on the rally strap is pretty cool: But the greatest Porsche watch of all time is, of course, the Monaco (the version with the gulf livery is cool too):
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Damn you Gruss for sending me down this rabbit hole. And damn you Apex and Titan7 for being too successful and not having wheels and tires in time to burn this money on. Damn you all to heck
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That's exactly the kind of filth I like to see on a front end (speaking about your F80)
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Mine sees snow and salt, these things are just a 3 Series after all. The plan is to have it forever and do a restoration when needed. But then again, having a summer car that's spotless even after a decade is pretty cool. The 135i was like that for the first few years, it was such a special occasion to drive it. I would wipe the exhaust tips after each drive. Now two weeks in between washes totally suffice and the M3 is the car of choice. It often sits for weeks but gets taken out for track days or bigger trips which is why the mileage has gone up so much since buying it, I was actually surprised lol
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if you're a tool-bro the Pelagos is awesome, totally my pick, and I've been millimeters away from buying one a few times. You can't go wrong with either, the blue is cool, though my pick would be the simple black & white; super legible high contrast, just an ole trusty ... and the clasp might be the best in the industry.
Don't try it on if you're not serious because you'll walk out with it Ha, it's like the car bug: once you're in, it's hard to get out ... though the nice thing is, they last a lifetime. Ideally buy one for an important event or milestone - super fun to look back on years later. |
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