Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by AlterZgo

Damn... I miss So Cal... particularly Irvine, Newport Beach, OC. There are SO many awesome cars to see every single day and beautiful drives up and down PCH.

That's almost exactly where I was; Ladera Ranch.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by NickyC

Oh nooooooooooooooooo, they did it. Vorsteiner freaking did it, in my mind that improves the front tremendously and makes it look like the GT4. Son of a bitch, I've bought Vorsteiner for years and heard they were doing something for the G82 but I didn't have faith it could be done. I wish they had released some teaser shots or something before the I sold the car, dadgummit.

Still doesn't change the rest of the car (digi gauges, Lexus tail lights, terrible side mirrors, etc.), but this is just frustrating as something told me to hang on to the car before selling to see what Vorsteiner could come up with.

I still love the F80 of course but damnit damnit damnit.

If it makes you feel better it’s still pretty ugly lol. Even G87 without any aftermarket improvement still looks better than this so you’re holding out for the right g-chassis

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by AlterZgo

Damn... I miss So Cal... particularly Irvine, Newport Beach, OC. There are SO many awesome cars to see every single day and beautiful drives up and down PCH.

Heeeeyyyyy Oregon is pretty motor-baller too

[swagon]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Better, but the original was a low bar so its still not great. Plus not a fan of how everything is open and then you have one slat at the top that draws all the attention. Horizontal slats look weird in the kidney grills, only a few exceptions (Z8, 507) really work well with them but they also have more proportional grills thanks to being wider than they are tall, unlike the G8X.

Indeed better, but let us not forget two things - does not fix the rest of the M4 and that this thing still exists and it's ugly as ever:



They at least somewhat tried to incorporate the grille on the M car, but god damn does it look like an afterthought on the G22. And whoever says they did it for cooling purposes, erm, nope.

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Thank you for the pallet cleanser, much better.

Honestly would love to see someone retrofit the old taillights onto the M5 CS, would probably be close to perfect then.

There you go, perfection. The whole car is top notch, but the wheels especially are

[icegrill]

Originally Posted by swagon

Indeed better, but let us not forget two things - does not fix the rest of the M4 and that this thing still exists and it's ugly as ever:

[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2_IMG_3977.jpg[/IMG]

They at least somewhat tried to incorporate the grille on the M car, but god damn does it look like an afterthought on the G22. And whoever says they did it for cooling purposes, erm, nope.

There you go, perfection. The whole car is top notch, but the wheels especially are

[IMG]https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/LN.../bmw-m5-cs.jpg[/IMG]

Exactly! It's not just the grille. It's the hood, fenders, rear bumper that looks tacked on. The whole design is fubar'd

[swagon]

Originally Posted by icegrill

Exactly! It's not just the grille. It's the hood, fenders, rear bumper that looks tacked on. The whole design is fubar'd

Could be worse

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by swagon

There you go, perfection. The whole car is top notch, but the wheels especially are

[IMG]https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/LN.../bmw-m5-cs.jpg[/IMG]

So much better without the civic taillights!

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by swagon

Could be worse

lmfao hahaha wtf

[Multimodal]

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

I have to say, the new Vorsteiner grill makes the G8X car look a whole lot better. But honestly, I’m not buying a brand new car to rip the bumper off and re-engineer it.
For the most part, one of BMW’s premier tuners addresses this situation which gives credit to the general consensus that the car is ugly AF in normal attire.
https://vorsteinerwheels.myshopify.com/

FYI, the Vorsteiner kit is just a replacement for the grille piece. You don’t have to replace (and paint) the front bumper. So it’s really no big deal (I swapped the grills on my X5 to a black part in 20 minutes).

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

FYI, the Vorsteiner kit is just a replacement for the grille piece. You don’t have to replace (and paint) the front bumper. So it’s really no big deal (I swapped the grills on my X5 to a black part in 20 minutes).

The only annoying thing with G8X based on what I've seen on grille mods is that you need to remove the entire front bumper since the kidneys are no longer isolated at the top of the bumper

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

Hopefully the LCI looks something like that. Anyone have a friend at BMW they can call to suggest it?

They still look like two giant ass grills on the green car.

Not a fan.

Maybe color match the center bar?

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

If it makes you feel better it’s still pretty ugly lol. Even G87 without any aftermarket improvement still looks better than this so you’re holding out for the right g-chassis

Yes, much faith in the G87 so we shall see!

[NSX2M4]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I personally think it looks way too busy, but I'm not the target buyer for that front end anyway.

Agree, but it is much better than the toaster slot buck teeth grill.
Seen a grey m3 approach me today on a 2 way road. The way the whole hood line bend towards the grills just looks so sloppy and ugly. Yikes.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

Agree, but it is much better than the toaster slot buck teeth grill.
Seen a grey m3 approach me today on a 2 way road. The way the whole hood line bend towards the grills just looks so sloppy and ugly. Yikes.

I would personally take the OEM look.

[NSX2M4]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I would personally take the OEM look.

In the end BMW still bred a Dodge Charger with a Lexus IS.

[Multimodal]

OK Boomers.












jk 🙃

[M3WC]

All the Vorsteiner grills do is prove the giant vertical grills serve no function over the traditional design(two top kidneys and one lower horizontal grill). Actually one could argue with a traditional design there could be more airflow with the center divider removed from lower intake. Vorsteiner just highlights they are in fact separated by a horizontal bumper bar. It is a fail no matter how someone tries to address the design.

[TimmyM56]

I don't hate the Vorsteiner grille, I like that it's an improvement over the OEM one and that it's not a full bumper replacement compared to the Evaero model, so more people should be able to do it on their own.

Still holding out for an M8, M340i or M5 style full bumper replacement. I know there are difficulties with that, but I think the G8x is a great evolution for me from my F82, but I can't buy an ugly car.

[paulo_f80m3]

It's still ugly and you could buy a car for that full kit..

[GrussGott]

BMW Development Director Frank Weber:

According to Weber, [BMW] is "working on a new generation of engines: petrol, diesel, six-cylinder, eight-cylinder."

Weber said that BMW will need a "state-of-the-art combustion engine" for a few more years. This will be the purpose of the upcoming newly developed power plants, which are said to be also technologically prepared for future emission standards.

"With the six-cylinder engine alone, we are reducing CO2 emissions more massively than has ever been the case with a generation change," Weber added. He also cited that legislation in terms of emissions is becoming standardized around the world, which would definitely help BMW's case.

"In order to reconcile emission requirements on the one hand and performance requirements on the other, we looked at the entire charge cycle and found a promising approach there," said Weber.

Weber stated that the new engines are "nothing is really like it was before." There will be something that's completely new in the cylinder head in the name of efficiency.

And in Porsche BEV News:

Porsche executives believe the brand, whose customer base is mainly performance-focused buyers, does not need the Artemis advanced autonomous driving functions. The brand lobbied VW Group for its version to be built in a Porsche plant.

Now Porsche will pay about 100 million euros ($113 million) to VW Commercial Vehicles to buy itself out of the project, sources told Automotive News Europe sister publication Automobilwoche.

Instead, Porsche will build its electric flagship, known internally as the K1, at its plant in Leipzig, Germany, starting in 2026, one year later than planned in Hanover.

Anybody still think Porsche will be hanging around VW much longer?

[swagon]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Weber stated that the new engines are "nothing is really like it was before." There will be something that's completely new in the cylinder head in the name of efficiency.[/i][/indent]

I'm glad BMW's still keeping ICE alive, though no way they're gonna develop a valve cover that won't leak in 80k miles.

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Anybody still think Porsche will be hanging around VW much longer?

Think I've said it before and I'll say it again - the VW Group is a congregation of greedy back-stabbing fucks who bully others, but the Porsche people take the cake. I experienced it first-hand. And with this Artemis project, they're really taking the piss.

But it's neither surprising nor nonsensical.

Bentley wanting to do paint & assembly of the EV luxobarge themselves makes total sense. It's how the current models are made, with body-in-white and powertrains arriving from Europe. And it is still a tiny company, thus leaving VAG to take care of the bulk of the work was to be expected.

PAG board members are way too proud to share anything with the plebs aka Volkswagen AG. Oh, wait, no, they love to share with others but only when they build it. Nuff said. Though, I was expecting the reports to firmly tell that the upcoming Cayenne would be built at a Porsche plant instead of the Slovakian plant. Having the Cayenne as a standalone PAG model would've truly been the nail in the coffin.

I don't think the day is near just yet, but Porsche might very much just leg it before it gets too late and when they do, I reckon they'd take Bentley and Bugatti with them as well.

When I was at one of the Group brands, rumours were going around that Porsche was cooking up some deal with Bentley, and then other rumours that VW might get rid of Bentley altogether if they don't improve their financial situation. That has been postponed. I believe neither are gonna stay in the Group, but as much as the Brits seem to be doing well now, they can't survive on their own, though.

Bentley and PAG are very tight-knit due to their collaboration, which is obviously rather vast and which started by PAG forcing Bentley to buy their (expensive) shit amongst other secret limitations that don't get talked about.

Bugatti, with the whole Porsche-Rimac join venture thing, I don't think there's much discussion to be had in this regard.

Diess has lost some of his control and the new lad on board, who he had beef with, is also in Porsche SE and has close ties with the Piech/Porsche family... So, the implications are clear.

It's crazy how they're all fighting against each other whilst VAG has also got the whole Bundesrepublik watching their arse.

[stein_325i]

Cleaning the house and found some Porsche books I thought ya'll would enjoy.