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      07-14-2018, 07:15 AM   #1
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Remember when the Obama's administration wiretapped Merkel's phones

Obama acted no different than Putin, the NSA monitored calls of 35 world leaders after US official handed over contacts, it was all approved by Obama!
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....it was all approved by Obama!
And Bush43, and every other President since we've had the capability.

It's not analogous to Russia until you can demonstrate that our government actively tried to influence Germany's elections.
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And Bush43, and every other President since we've had the capability.

It's not analogous to Russia until you can demonstrate that our government actively tried to influence Germany's elections.
Obama approved the order to wiretap Merkel, not Bush 43.
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Sure. Tell yourself that.
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Here's the article you quoted. Read before posting.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10407282/Barack-Obama-approved-tapping-Angela-Merkels-phone-3-years-ago.html
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Obama acted no different than Putin, the NSA monitored calls of 35 world leaders after US official handed over contacts, it was all approved by Obama!
Great! Perhaps we will also wire tap the Putin / Trump meeting so the rest of us can get in on what they discuss.
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Anyone who thinks this isn't happening under every administration to every head of state we can reach is fucking dumb.
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....it was all approved by Obama!
And Bush43, and every other President since we've had the capability.

It's not analogous to Russia until you can demonstrate that our government actively tried to influence Germany's elections.
Can you demonstrate that the Russians tried to influence our elections? Good luck with that....
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Can you demonstrate that the Russians tried to influence our elections? Good luck with that....
They not only influenced the election, they elected Colonel Mustard. Wake up people.
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Can you demonstrate that the Russians tried to influence our elections? Good luck with that....

Whether they tried is no longer the question. Whether they influenced outcome is debatable.
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/0...indictment.pdf

from trump appointee DHS head
https://www.axios.com/sec-nielsen-ca...19f4633df.html

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...ing-red-again/

Hate to break it to you and Donald, they're not our friends.
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Can you demonstrate that the Russians tried to influence our elections? Good luck with that....
So your position on the recent indictment is that it's 100% fantasy. Completely fabricated gibberish?
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Can you demonstrate that the Russians tried to influence our elections? Good luck with that....
I don't need to demonstrate it. Literally our entire national intelligence apparatus has said so.


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Can you demonstrate that the Russians tried to influence our elections? Good luck with that....
I don't need to demonstrate it. Literally our entire national intelligence apparatus has said so.


http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/01/fa...e-dnc-podesta/
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Can you demonstrate that the Russians tried to influence our elections? Good luck with that....
So your position on the recent indictment is that it's 100% fantasy. Completely fabricated gibberish?
I haven't taken "a position" on anything, since the facts aren't in.... But since you mentioned it:

- part of what the Russians are accused of hacking are the voter databases in IL and IA - which are made publicly available,

- the focus of the investigations is "did the Russians hack," and completely ignores that the DNC, Hillary, and the rest of the idiots had highly sensitive information on private email servers, being printed off by maids, sitting on Weiner's unsecured laptop, etc.

If this wasn't a Witch Hunt, there would be a parallel investigation into Hillary, the DNC, and the Obama Administration. And further investigations into criminal charges for Hillary, Donna Brazile, Debbie Wasserman-Schulz.

But it is a Witch Hunt, so don't expect that.
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Can you demonstrate that the Russians tried to influence our elections? Good luck with that....
So your position on the recent indictment is that it's 100% fantasy. Completely fabricated gibberish?
I haven't taken "a position" on anything, since the facts aren't in.... But since you mentioned it:

- part of what the Russians are accused of hacking are the voter databases in IL and IA - which are made publicly available,

- the focus of the investigations is "did the Russians hack," and completely ignores that the DNC, Hillary, and the rest of the idiots had highly sensitive information on private email servers, being printed off by maids, sitting on Weiner's unsecured laptop, etc.

If this wasn't a Witch Hunt, there would be a parallel investigation into Hillary, the DNC, and the Obama Administration. And further investigations into criminal charges for Hillary, Donna Brazile, Debbie Wasserman-Schulz.

But it is a Witch Hunt, so don't expect that.
Witch hunt is not an appropriate term.

Females: witches

Males: sorcerer

Hence: it's a sorcerer hunt

Trump even screwed that up!
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I haven't taken "a position" on anything, since the facts aren't in.... But since you mentioned it:

- part of what the Russians are accused of hacking are the voter databases in IL and IA - which are made publicly available,

- the focus of the investigations is "did the Russians hack," and completely ignores that the DNC, Hillary, and the rest of the idiots had highly sensitive information on private email servers, being printed off by maids, sitting on Weiner's unsecured laptop, etc.

If this wasn't a Witch Hunt, there would be a parallel investigation into Hillary, the DNC, and the Obama Administration. And further investigations into criminal charges for Hillary, Donna Brazile, Debbie Wasserman-Schulz.

But it is a Witch Hunt, so don't expect that.
So the Republican controlled Congress and White House are holding off on the parallel investigation of HRC, the DNC, and Obama because, why?
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https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/...ector-national

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations....





https://www.dni.gov/index.php/what-w...bers-of-the-ic

The U.S. Intelligence Community is composed of the following 17 organizations:

Two independent agencies—the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA);

Eight Department of Defense elements—the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the National Security Agency (NSA), the National Geospatial- Intelligence Agency (NGA), the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), and intelligence elements of the four DoD services; the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force.

Seven elements of other departments and agencies—the Department of Energy’s Office of Intelligence and Counter-Intelligence; the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis and U.S. Coast Guard Intelligence; the Department of Justice’s Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Drug Enforcement Agency’s Office of National Security Intelligence; the Department of State’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research; and the Department of the Treasury’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis.

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Witch hunt is not an appropriate term.

Females: witches

Males: sorcerer

Hence: it's a sorcerer hunt

Trump even screwed that up!
brb tweeting to Trump to change his terminology.

sorry, but im saying its my original, fantastic, most wonderful idea
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