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      11-21-2020, 01:57 AM   #23
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I think F8x values will be above G8x values, but not anytime soon. Would expect to see this after about 15-20 years, when F8x cars start popping up on BaT as collector's items.
People said that for the E46 M3 when the E90 M3 came out and that didn't happen
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      11-21-2020, 08:08 PM   #24
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I think F8x values will be above G8x values, but not anytime soon. Would expect to see this after about 15-20 years, when F8x cars start popping up on BaT as collector's items.
15-20 years from now I doubt there will be much a market for gasoline enginee except as collector items. I can’t see the F or G to be collector items.
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      11-22-2020, 08:19 PM   #25
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Well, it's collectors who are driving prices up on classic and modern cars, after all, not the average consumer...

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People said that for the E46 M3 when the E90 M3 came out and that didn't happen
I think people are now saying that for a completely different reason.
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      11-24-2020, 10:44 AM   #26
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anybody have m3 and m4 production numbers? I'm curious how many more M4 were produced
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=23945730

16K F80 M3 in US sold, ~35K globally. Only CS models might hold their value better since there were 607 sold in US.

Just like most other cars, first 3 years of depreciation will be high then it'll be modest between years 4-10 then it'll level off afterwards.

I'll say F80 prices will hold steady for the next year or two. Reasons:
  • Because of covid, used car prices has seen an increase.
  • The higher cost of entry and limited availability of new G80 models
  • Increasing popularity of the platform for tuning thanks to good aftermarket support and social media coverage


But hey, anything can happen nowadays, who knows.
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15-20 years from now I doubt there will be much a market for gasoline enginee except as collector items. I can’t see the F or G to be collector items.
I agree with the second point, F or G series won't be a collector item unless it's a low mileage CS models.

However, in 15-20 years there still will be a demand for gasoline or hybrid cars.
3% of cars sold today are EVs. EPA forecasts: 13-23% in 2030.

Source: page 34:
https://www.epa.gov/sites/production...2019-10-24.pdf

By that rate of optimistic increase we won't have more than 50% EV adoption in 20 years.
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      11-25-2020, 11:23 AM   #28
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i think that the clean e92's, like the low mileage comps and lime rocks will overtake the cs in 10 years or so.

EV/Hybrid powertrains are going to be fast as hell and no gasoline motor will be able to keep up at that time. nobody will care about the power of a gas car, they just want the experience. And a high rpm v8 paired with a manual offers far more experience than a dct turbocharged car.
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People said that for the E46 M3 when the E90 M3 came out and that didn't happen
What about now lol
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People said that for the E46 M3 when the E90 M3 came out and that didn't happen
What about now lol
Lol these are strange times. Sold my F80 for nearly $8k more than what I owned. Pretty much all cars have retained more of their value due to chip shortages.
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      02-22-2022, 08:34 PM   #31
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Well… the replies to this thread did not age well lol. Sold my M4 for 6k more than I paid and that was after putting around 20k miles on it… Bought in late 2019 sold in late 2021.

I think prices may start to trickle down over the next couple years or so if they can finally catch up on chips. Then start to appreciate again down the line if everyone is forced to start pumping out the electric junk.

I also believe the F8x E9x will hold their value well because of how the G8x looks. Heck I may start looking to get back into a clean E92
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Well… the replies to this thread did not age well lol. Sold my M4 for 6k more than I paid and that was after putting around 20k miles on it… Bought in late 2019 sold in late 2021.

I think prices may start to trickle down over the next couple years or so if they can finally catch up on chips. Then start to appreciate again down the line if everyone is forced to start pumping out the electric junk.

I also believe the F8x E9x will hold their value well because of how the G8x looks. Heck I may start looking to get back into a clean E92
My want for an e92 is also still there.. I think the f8x will be the one that does the best in the future.. It's underappreciated.
Think I might have to sell my Nissan for an E92 but maybe not quite yet.... lol
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Well… the replies to this thread did not age well lol. Sold my M4 for 6k more than I paid and that was after putting around 20k miles on it… Bought in late 2019 sold in late 2021.

I think prices may start to trickle down over the next couple years or so if they can finally catch up on chips. Then start to appreciate again down the line if everyone is forced to start pumping out the electric junk.

I also believe the F8x E9x will hold their value well because of how the G8x looks. Heck I may start looking to get back into a clean E92
Lol this thread definitely did not age well. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
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      05-03-2022, 10:00 AM   #34
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Looked into getting into a F80 in Q1 of 2021. Entry price (in the Toronto area) was $41k CAD, for a base 2015 with 92K KM.

Now, can't even find one for less than $50k CAD.
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      05-03-2022, 10:27 AM   #35
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I think even now F8x platform is an amazing bargain. The new cars are so much more expensive and don’t really provide greater performance.

I also think they are still some of the best looking cars on the road especially compared to the G8x.
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I think even now F8x platform is an amazing bargain. The new cars are so much more expensive and don’t really provide greater performance.

I also think they are still some of the best looking cars on the road especially compared to the G8x.
share the same opinion, especially the cars getting heavier all the time in addition. Hopefully the next M3/4 series still keeps driven by ICE not this shitty hybird thing powertrains
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Well… the replies to this thread did not age well lol. Sold my M4 for 6k more than I paid and that was after putting around 20k miles on it… Bought in late 2019 sold in late 2021.

I think prices may start to trickle down over the next couple years or so if they can finally catch up on chips. Then start to appreciate again down the line if everyone is forced to start pumping out the electric junk.

I also believe the F8x E9x will hold their value well because of how the G8x looks. Heck I may start looking to get back into a clean E92
Lol this thread definitely did not age well. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
True but not sure there was much of a precedent for the circumstances.

Stock F80s with low mileage will be worth decent money someday just like any good example of an M3 but between now and then they'll become cheap for a ten year span I'd guess.
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True but not sure there was much of a precedent for the circumstances.

Stock F80s with low mileage will be worth decent money someday just like any good example of an M3 but between now and then they'll become cheap for a ten year span I'd guess.
I sort of wonder what the EV transition will do to this. It won't be long before everything is at least a hybrid. It won't be long before more people are looking to pick up their gas powered weekend car before they are unobtanium. I'd expect any M car to do better than your average commuter over the next decade anyways.
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clean e92s will be worth the most. have you seen what lime rocks are going for? i think one with 20k miles went for 130k or something on bringatrailer the other day. EAG has a 2013 comp car with 30k miles for $75k.

the f8x is a good performer. but lacks soul and charisma due to the s55. in the future thats what people will want. they wont care about laptimes or performance because EVs will be so far ahead of ICE by then.
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the f8x is a good performer. but lacks soul and charisma due to the s55.
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clean e92s will be worth the most. have you seen what lime rocks are going for? i think one with 20k miles went for 130k or something on bringatrailer the other day. EAG has a 2013 comp car with 30k miles for $75k.

the f8x is a good performer. but lacks soul and charisma due to the s55. in the future thats what people will want. they wont care about laptimes or performance because EVs will be so far ahead of ICE by then.
F8x cars can be modified relatively cheaply and have proven to be very reliable.
Also stock for stock - the F8x cars are on another level compared to E9x.

I do agree the V8 noise will continue to be a special character of the e9x M3s. Each generation will have its fans and the clean unmolested cars will retain value pretty well.
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