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Yes, I'm excited for the new M3/4 | 25 | 6.76% | |
No, I don't plan to upgrade/plan to move to another car/brand | 277 | 74.86% | |
Maybe, I will need to think about it and have some seat time. | 68 | 18.38% | |
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09-27-2020, 01:24 AM | #155 |
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Probably not. I was going to get into an m2 cs but realized just buying out my lease st half the price of the m2 with only 8k miles would be the smarter choice..
So my plans right now since I’m not a huge fan of the direction BMW is going, is to hold onto my f80, pay it off as quickly as I can in 3 years.. so I can always keep what I consider one of the best m3s and have the flexibility for a newer car, maybe from a diff brand in 3 years. F80 m3 and cayman 718 gt4 in the garage sound like keepers... |
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It depends on the type of track and driver experience. Except for very tight technical courses, AWD usualy hampers more than it helps lap times for seasoned track drivers. Intelligent AWD will however help mask mistakes from less talented drivers.
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There always is bracing under the roof skin, CF or steel. On the F8X, that bracing was also made of CFRP to further save weight.
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It will be an assist for less experienced drivers, but also for advanced drivers who will be able to get on the power from mid-corner and exploit a "slight drift" to maximum track out. This bit of marketing from M is an accurate description of how it feels on corner exit. When accelerating out of a bend, M xDrive successively puts more and more torque on the front axle when it detects decreasing lateral acceleration. At that moment, it becomes possible to transmit the longitudinal forces without understeering. This occurs so gradually that it’s possible to exit the bend with a slight drift, as one would expect from an M automobile. It feels as if you are coming out of the curve in a controlled catapult. In defense of old school M rwd and diff hope I'm overestimating gains, and the weight penalty helps the rwd platform claw some back.
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Another important point, as I posted in the G8X weight thread, the G8X carries 200lb of its ~300lb extra pounds over the F8X on the front axle. The addition of 100~150lb from the AWD system will mostly be on that front axle too. That's a lot of work for the front tires, added weight plus traction duty, which does not bode well for handling balance.
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Soon as front wheels aimed at track out, on the gas, no sense of understeer. More like a smooth rotation and catapult effect as M describes. Zero drama. awd active before front wheels were straight. Hope I get a chance to test the G8X system as well, but thinking I'll need to line up another donor. Haven't made a deposit. 200# is a chunk, sheesh.
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Not to incite personal attacks, but the current M CEO is a guy who talks about investment values when he introduces M2 CS, possibly the most exciting bmw M car since 2014. We need someone like Albert Biermann of Hyundai N or Andres Preuninger of Porsche GT at the helm.
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Hard pass. Nothing on the G8x excites me. My M4CS will be my last BMW. Will be upgrading to a Porsche GT car when my current lease expires.
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I'm not sure, but if BMWNA brings in the G31 M3 wagon with 6MT, that would probably be the tipping point. I'd would probably go for that in a minute.
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The possibility of that is pretty much zero, especially with a 6MT.
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