How to check if car has a tune?

SuprUsrStan · 10-19-2020, 10:37 AM

Is there a simple way (tutorial) of how to check if the car currently has a tune through E-Sys? What would you look for for something like that? I saw some mention something about a flash counter. I can't seem to figure out where that info is located within the software.

I'm just trying to confirm that the car is currently stock and if possible check if the car has ever had a tune in the past.

kubax86 · 10-19-2020, 01:20 PM

You can check flash counter but it's possible that counter remained even though car is flashed.

SuprUsrStan · 10-19-2020, 01:54 PM

So I was able to pull the readProgrammingCounter stats.

Code:

=== Request : readProgrammingCounter (22 25 02) ============================
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 1
10->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 1
61->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
35->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
67->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
44->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
43->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
3F->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
56->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
2C->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
17->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 1
06->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
78->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
5F->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
72->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
08->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
30->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
40->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
01->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
6D->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 3
63->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 03
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
60->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
1C->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
76->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
0F->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 1
12->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
37->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
29->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00

Of note, I think is the entry for 12->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01 with a value of // prog counter: 1. Am I correct in that this is the ECU? With a count of 1, is it a pretty good bet that this car currently has a tune on it?

SuprUsrStan · 10-23-2020, 09:48 AM

Is there any way to check to see if the car currently has a tune without actually putting the car on a dyno? I would hate to flash a car with a stock map if it's already on the stock tune.

Kilabyte · 10-24-2020, 11:40 AM

Find a stock M and do a pull

Djdnav · 11-11-2020, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuprUsrStan

So I was able to pull the readProgrammingCounter stats.

Code:

=== Request : readProgrammingCounter (22 25 02) ============================
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 1
10->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 1
61->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
35->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
67->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
44->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
43->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
3F->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
56->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
2C->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
17->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 1
06->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
78->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
5F->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
72->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
08->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
30->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
40->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
01->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
6D->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 3
63->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 03
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
60->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
1C->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
76->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
0F->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 1
12->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
37->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00
// state of prog counter: several times
// prog counter: 0
29->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 00

Of note, I think is the entry for 12->F4 62 25 02 00 00 00 01 with a value of // prog counter: 1. Am I correct in that this is the ECU? With a count of 1, is it a pretty good bet that this car currently has a tune on it?

I don't know what values those are, or what program you're using; but any module that has been initialized to the car will have a flash count of 1. Sometimes modules are updated for whatever reason, so having a flash count of 2-3 doesn't necessarily mean it was tuned.

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