Continuous cranking no start, stop ignition cycle then starts right up

Kminor2578 · 01-18-2019, 07:30 PM

Hey Fellas,
My 2016 F80 has had this problem happen twice. I go to start the car and it will continuous crank (nice and health crank, not slow or anything) and won't start. After about 3-4 seconds I stop cranking and hit the ignition button again and it starts right up. Both times it's happen it's been considerably cold, below freezing. After the first time I called the service manager at my local bmw dealer (Tim at Circle BMW) and he said he never heard of it happening before and he wouldn't bother bringing it in. Now, it just happened again today. I am wondering if anyone else has had this happen and what the hell is causing it. It's still got 30K left on the warranty so It's not a big deal I just want to know if it's worth bringing it in. Thanks guys

FatRear08 · 01-18-2019, 09:13 PM

Bring it in and let them look at it. Doesn’t seem right. Use that warranty.

Kminor2578 · 01-18-2019, 11:07 PM

Yeah, It's just annoying when it's something so intermittent. The whole "hooked it up to the scanner and no codes came up, couldn't get it to do it" crap drives me crazy. I've read wild stories of spun crank hubs. It's 30 degrees outside it certainly isn't vapor lock. I know someone is considering suggesting it.

MR RIZK · 01-19-2019, 01:16 AM

One of the crank or cam shaft position sensors could be failing.

Fast4d · 01-19-2019, 02:49 PM

factory or bootmod3/aftermarket tune?

my E85 toon require 5-8 seconds cranking when cold

Kminor2578 · 01-19-2019, 03:17 PM

Nope, bone stock.

lilpump · 01-19-2019, 03:52 PM

I don't think it's the cold mine starts right up in below freezing. Keep us posted.

CRRobert · 01-20-2019, 02:04 PM

It might be a pain, but if you video tape with your phone or go pro, you can catch it and then show the dealer/technician. I had a problem with my e60 radio that the dealer could not replicate, but when I showed the video the next time I brought it in, they were able to keep it a little longer and got it to happen on them, and then were able to fix it.

Kminor2578 · 01-21-2019, 07:29 PM

I dropped it off today, hopefully something comes up in the CPU since it's only been 3 days since the last time it happened. I'll keep everyone posted, I suspect it a crank or cam position sensor just strange nothing popped up on the info screen on the car for a no start. Plus it was like -8F today in N.J. and it didn't happen so I doubt it's cold related.

Kminor2578 · 01-22-2019, 06:33 PM

Got it back today, apparently the computer thought someone was trying to steal the car. They updated the software. I'd be surprised if that's really the problem but we will find out in coming months

MR RIZK · 01-23-2019, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kminor2578

Got it back today, apparently the computer thought someone was trying to steal the car. They updated the software. I'd be surprised if that's really the problem but we will find out in coming months

Lol.. like the thief is only going to crank the car once.

Did they actually say there is a known issue with your current software that is fixed in the one they applied?

ASRman · 10-24-2020, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kminor2578

Got it back today, apparently the computer thought someone was trying to steal the car. They updated the software. I'd be surprised if that's really the problem but we will find out in coming months

Did this solve the problem then? Someone tried to jack your car?

thecarman · 07-04-2021, 09:34 PM

Hello I'm experiencing the same issue with my car. Did the software update for anti theft solve the problem ?

Kminor2578 · 07-05-2021, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thecarman

Hello I'm experiencing the same issue with my car. Did the software update for anti theft solve the problem ?

Try changing the battery on the key fob and make sure the key is on the right side of the ignition. I think it's more of the case when fob is close by not close enough to the receiver. They did the software update but it has happened 1-2 times since

thecarman · 07-05-2021, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kminor2578

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Originally Posted by thecarman

Hello I'm experiencing the same issue with my car. Did the software update for anti theft solve the problem ?

Try changing the battery on the key fob and make sure the key is on the right side of the ignition. I think it's more of the case when fob is close by not close enough to the receiver. They did the software update but it has happened 1-2 times since

No luck unfortunately

steven.dbc · 07-28-2021, 03:54 AM

I pm'd you bro !

YerrowNoodle · 08-08-2021, 01:27 AM

is your phone next to your keys?

Shubacca · 09-18-2021, 03:23 PM

Any update on this or anyone else having the issue? Mine did this for the first time today and the only thing I changed was installing a Turner OCC.

01-18-2019, 07:30 PM	#1
Kminor2578 First Lieutenant 237 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 2021 M3 Comp Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Continuous cranking no start, stop ignition cycle then starts right up Hey Fellas, My 2016 F80 has had this problem happen twice. I go to start the car and it will continuous crank (nice and health crank, not slow or anything) and won't start. After about 3-4 seconds I stop cranking and hit the ignition button again and it starts right up. Both times it's happen it's been considerably cold, below freezing. After the first time I called the service manager at my local bmw dealer (Tim at Circle BMW) and he said he never heard of it happening before and he wouldn't bother bringing it in. Now, it just happened again today. I am wondering if anyone else has had this happen and what the hell is causing it. It's still got 30K left on the warranty so It's not a big deal I just want to know if it's worth bringing it in. Thanks guys
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01-18-2019, 09:13 PM	#2
FatRear08 Major 1427 Rep 1,195 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: HHI iTrader: (0)	Bring it in and let them look at it. Doesn’t seem right. Use that warranty.
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01-18-2019, 11:07 PM	#3
Kminor2578 First Lieutenant 237 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 2021 M3 Comp Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Yeah, It's just annoying when it's something so intermittent. The whole "hooked it up to the scanner and no codes came up, couldn't get it to do it" crap drives me crazy. I've read wild stories of spun crank hubs. It's 30 degrees outside it certainly isn't vapor lock. I know someone is considering suggesting it.
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MR RIZK Major 758 Rep 1,336 Posts Drives: AW M2C Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	One of the crank or cam shaft position sensors could be failing. __________________ Previous Rides: 13' 135i, 08' 130i, 03' HKS Turbo'd 350z, Modded GC8 WRX, NA MX5
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Fast4d Captain 267 Rep 885 Posts Drives: 325 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: So cal iTrader: (0)	factory or bootmod3/aftermarket tune? my E85 toon require 5-8 seconds cranking when cold __________________ SAFE-GUARD tire/wheel/windshield/paint protection is a FRAUD! do not waste your money!
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Kminor2578 First Lieutenant 237 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 2021 M3 Comp Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Nope, bone stock.
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lilpump New Member 3 Rep 21 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW M4 [0.00]	I don't think it's the cold mine starts right up in below freezing. Keep us posted.
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CRRobert Private First Class 55 Rep 193 Posts Drives: 18 Avus Blue ZCP M3 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	It might be a pain, but if you video tape with your phone or go pro, you can catch it and then show the dealer/technician. I had a problem with my e60 radio that the dealer could not replicate, but when I showed the video the next time I brought it in, they were able to keep it a little longer and got it to happen on them, and then were able to fix it.
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01-21-2019, 07:29 PM	#9
Kminor2578 First Lieutenant 237 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 2021 M3 Comp Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	I dropped it off today, hopefully something comes up in the CPU since it's only been 3 days since the last time it happened. I'll keep everyone posted, I suspect it a crank or cam position sensor just strange nothing popped up on the info screen on the car for a no start. Plus it was like -8F today in N.J. and it didn't happen so I doubt it's cold related.
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Kminor2578 First Lieutenant 237 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 2021 M3 Comp Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Got it back today, apparently the computer thought someone was trying to steal the car. They updated the software. I'd be surprised if that's really the problem but we will find out in coming months
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thecarman New Member 10 Rep 16 Posts Drives: bmw m4 Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	Hello I'm experiencing the same issue with my car. Did the software update for anti theft solve the problem ?
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steven.dbc Private 2 Rep 60 Posts Drives: 2017 BMW M3 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Fontana California iTrader: (1)	I pm'd you bro !
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Shubacca Private First Class 122 Rep 171 Posts Drives: F80 M3, E36/7 M Roadster Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Virginia Beach, VA iTrader: (0)	Any update on this or anyone else having the issue? Mine did this for the first time today and the only thing I changed was installing a Turner OCC.
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