Introducing the First Ever BMW M4 CS!

[AndrewC1989]

first ever? uhhhh pretty sure they built 60 in Spain last year



http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/5/1...eason-7733459/

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

first ever? uhhhh pretty sure they built 60 in Spain last year



http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/5/1...eason-7733459/

But that wasn't a factory car, was it?

I thought those were more of a Spain-specific one-off.

[IrvineTim]

does this mean my plain jane m4 will go up in value when when rich people start buying up these overpriced m4s?

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

But that wasn't a factory car, was it?

I thought those were more of a Spain-specific one-off.

I wasn't arguing that. I'm just saying it isn't "The First Ever BMW M4 CS"

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Car looks great. Great wheels. Gorgeous paint.

The race-type door panels and center console are poser repellant. I love that.

Why wrap the dash in leather, while saving weight to the point that we're using pull straps on the doors? Seems like a glitch in the design. The standard dash is the lighter part.

Calling the addition of a more-hardcore M car "diluting the brand" is akin to the idea that you'd be diluting a mixed drink by adding alcohol. Nuts.

[duk]

For 100k? Kinda meh... shoulda made it 90k

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Car looks great. Great wheels. Gorgeous paint.

The race-type door panels and center console are poser repellant. I love that.

Why wrap the dash in leather, while saving weight to the point that we're using pull straps on the doors? Seems like a glitch in the design. The standard dash is the lighter part.

Calling the addition of a more-hardcore M car "diluting the brand" is akin to the idea that you'd be diluting a mixed drink by adding alcohol. Nuts.

Adding cardboard door trims to save a couple of pounds (literally, look it up in ETK how not much lighter they are) is for the poseurs to make it look like a race car. It is not what will make it better on track.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by andrewc89

I wasn't arguing that. I'm just saying it isn't "The First Ever BMW M4 CS"

Fair enough.

I wasn't giving you a hard time, I was sincerely trying to determine if I had remembered the car you referenced correctly or not.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Adding cardboard door trims to save a couple of pounds (literally, look it up in ETK how not much lighter they are) is for the poseurs to make it look like a race car. It is not what will make it better on track.

I think that hits the nail on the head for me - perhaps if the weight savings effort appeared car-wide, and to be a genuine effort, it would be more impressive.

The whole thing just seems 1/2 assed.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Adding cardboard door trims to save a couple of pounds (literally, look it up in ETK how not much lighter they are) is for the poseurs to make it look like a race car. It is not what will make it better on track.

You're missing my point. Those door panels will repel people who don't really intend to use the car on track. Those door panels represent dedication more than time on a stopwatch.

[Jo-Sta07]

BMW is turning into Porsche with all these minor variations

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

You're missing my point. Those door panels will repel people who don't really intend to use the car on track. Those door panels represent dedication more than time on a stopwatch.

And you are missing mine. I definitely intend to use it on track. The main reason I have been buying ///M cars since 2001 is for them to serve as dual duty cars for the DD and track, as they are intended. And I do track a fair bit at a rate of ~20 track days a year. Those cardboard door trims and spartan interior are a deterent to me because they provide barely any benefit on track while sacrificing DD comfort and practicality. They are for the poseur: look at my race car interior.

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

And you are missing mine. I definitely intend to use it on track. The main reason I have been buying ///M cars since 2001 is for them to serve as dual duty cars for the DD and track, as they are intended. And I do track a fair bit at a rate of ~20 track days a year. Those cardboard door trims and spartan interior are a deterent to me because they provide barely any benefit on track while sacrificing DD comfort and practicality. They are for the poseur: look a my race car interior.

A good point, and totally agreed.

[ace_maverick]

A great looking car, more of a marketing move by BMW. I'm sure these will retain value for those you are concerned about depreciation. I love that front lip and interested to know if it would fit on my F80 M3 waiting to get the part number

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

And you are missing mine. I definitely intend to use it on track. The main reason I have been buying ///M cars since 2001 is for them to serve as dual duty cars for the DD and track, as they are intended. And I do track a fair bit at a rate of ~20 track days a year. Those cardboard door trims and spartan interior are a deterent to me because they provide barely any benefit on track while sacrificing DD comfort and practicality. They are for the poseur: look at my race car interior.

Exactly - if you want to really make an effort on the weight savings for a track-oriented machine, the door panels are probably not the best place to begin.

And yet, there's full leather in other places - just seems like this car wasn't well thought out.

[AtlantisF80]

Anyone know how much the front lip costs? I like it!

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I think that hits the nail on the head for me - perhaps if the weight savings effort appeared car-wide, and to be a genuine effort, it would be more impressive.

The whole thing just seems 1/2 assed.

I have the same material throughout my i3
So it's "LTW" like door panels ( materials )
seem oh so familiar to me

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Exactly - if you want to really make an effort on the weight savings for a track-oriented machine, the door panels are probably not the best place to begin.

And yet, there's full leather in other places - just seems like this car wasn't well thought out.

I think the door panels are a throwback from precious LTW and CSL type M cars no ?

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Brake_Late

I have the same material throughout my i3
So it's "LTW" like door panels ( materials )
seem oh so familiar to me

Throughout makes sense, especially in the case of an i-branded car, because there are other materials which are very heavy. And I am sure it's not just the door panels in your car.

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Throughout makes sense, especially in the case of an i-branded car, because there are other materials which are very heavy. And I am sure it's not just the door panels in your car.

Agreed. It's all throughout yes...light cheap that seems like a direction it's been heading in half footed or full footed.

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by Brake_Late

Agreed. It's all throughout yes...light cheap that seems like a direction it's been heading in half footed or full footed.

Love that little plastic car !

[doccyber]

Perfect track day car. Nice to see that BMW is at least trying to appeal to the purist.