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I think BMW feels that people will buy their cars no matter what which is why they aren't pushing their cars to the limit as they used to be.
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I believe you are correct which worries me even further as MB has been trying very hard to dethrone the M3 and I think they might do it this generation.
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06-17-2014, 11:35 AM | #270 | |
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If you ever do ANY tracking, you will regret the C63... ask me how I know I had my C63 for one summer and then sold it because it was not suitable for the track without a lot of mods. The auto tranny also leaves a lot to be desired relative to the DCT in the M cars. Having said that, if you only care about drag racing and only ever drive around town, it is a stellar car. It just isn't a car that suits the track as much as the M cars.
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Yes. Right up until the turn.
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06-17-2014, 02:32 PM | #272 |
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According to well informed sources the C63 is heavier.
Besides some of you forget your place sometimes. M is not about power its about precision , anyone can do numbers but then their focus becomes detached because they want the numbers. The new M philosophy is all about perfecting that precision through lightweight engineering. M3 and M4 are internally , older cars that featured what was possible at that point of development , so is the i8. We are now moving to the next phase and the M5 and something else will showcase where we are now and where we are at now is still years ahead of the competition when it comes to cost effective CFRP application and that's far more important than numbers especially when we bring these developments to our customers.
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http://www.autoevolution.com/news/co...way-75296.html
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The vision of BMW investing in materials science -- especially CFRP -- will result in long term leadership in sports performance and efficiency. Quote:
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The F8x is still relatively 'old-school'. Point here is the potential exhibited by the i-8 can be realized in high performance cars -- stay tuned.
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For what the M3 and M4 are in lightweight engineering it is highly significant not only for the future of M. But this segment. The M3 and M4 are a great achievement because of the application of lightweight material cost effectively for the customers benefit. As I mentioned they are internally older cars now, as is the i8. So progress has caught up. For an M fan that will be very exciting for what will be coming in the future. Its not a question of if we see a 3er in the same construction methods as an i3 in the next decade? More like when.
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Yeah, I agree with this point. The initial implementation of carbon fiber tech and a turbo 6 shared across some dozen cars means this is a bridge car to the new frontier opened up by cars like i-8 or Tesla.
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Is there a performance package on the i8 ? I know the Tesla has a 'sport' version.
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The i8 does not need a Performance package...Observe.
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