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      03-10-2015, 06:20 PM   #45
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So weird. I live in a small town in south Florida, I see m3's all the time while I remain the only m4 around, atleast that I've seen.
Just the opposite for me, I live in South Florida too and have only seen F82s, no F80s
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So weird. I live in a small town in south Florida, I see m3's all the time while I remain the only m4 around, atleast that I've seen.
Just the opposite for me, I live in South Florida too and have only seen F82s, no F80s
Outside of where I live I see M4's everyday. Where do you love?
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      08-20-2015, 08:14 PM   #47
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no m3's available

Wow, just did an inventory search on 4 bmw dealers near me.

NOT ONE M3.

plenty of M4's though

well, i guess because they include the convertible too, seems like a lot.
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BMW of Edison NJ would not negotiate with me over the M3, M4 yes. So I told them to take a hike, and went it another dealership that gave me a sweet deal $672 month 10k mile yr W/ $2k down for my YMB/SO m3
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      08-21-2015, 05:43 AM   #49
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Too many heavily optioned M4's.

On Cars.com

801 new M4's.

filter it to list only less than $75K M4's, only 60 shows up.
Who wouldn't highly option a M4?
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      08-21-2015, 06:59 AM   #50
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Who wouldn't highly option a M4?
Anyone who is primarily after the value in the chassis and powertrain and thus wants a relatively stripped down car.

The sense I am getting is that things haven't improved much for the model mix since this thread was posted earlier this year. The evidence does seem to suggest that the demand for M3s is higher on this forum than with the population at large. I still think this is lost sales for BMW - they could be selling more M3s without cutting into M4 sales if BMW sedans buyers and luxury sedan buyers at large were more aware of the practicality of the M3. Hopefully we get some official, even if rough, coupe/sedan/convertible numbers at any time this year.
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My CA showed me a letter from BMWNA the other day saying they are trying to increase US M3 allocations. I guess a lot of dealers are complaining about not getting enough.

Here in Atlanta there seems to be a larger M4 population but not by too much. I would say 60/40. 6MT on the other hand is a real rarity.
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      08-21-2015, 07:34 AM   #52
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Anyone who is primarily after the value in the chassis and powertrain and thus wants a relatively stripped down car.

The sense I am getting is that things haven't improved much for the model mix since this thread was posted earlier this year. The evidence does seem to suggest that the demand for M3s is higher on this forum than with the population at large. I still think this is lost sales for BMW - they could be selling more M3s without cutting into M4 sales if BMW sedans buyers and luxury sedan buyers at large were more aware of the practicality of the M3. Hopefully we get some official, even if rough, coupe/sedan/convertible numbers at any time this year.
It's just if you don't select any much option I feel like it's not a luxurious. And most people have this car as a mostly everyday and not so much weekend car right? So I mean that's why I think full optioned is pretty normal to think about it.
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      08-21-2015, 07:35 AM   #53
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My CA showed me a letter from BMWNA the other day saying they are trying to increase US M3 allocations. I guess a lot of dealers are complaining about not getting enough.

Here in Atlanta there seems to be a larger M4 population but not by too much. I would say 60/40. 6MT on the other hand is a real rarity.
I blame the U.S. Press having something to do with this desire to own an F80, monkey wrenching BMWs allocation plans. Damn that aggressive body style!
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This is very interesting. I just bought my second F80 last week and it was the last one at the dealership. I decided to buy another this week and was told that there are no more new M3's unaccounted for in the whole country. M4s? Take my pick. My dealer alone has 4 including 2 from 2014 build. I'm in Australia btw.

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BMW of Edison NJ would not negotiate with me over the M3, M4 yes. So I told them to take a hike, and went it another dealership that gave me a sweet deal $672 month 10k mile yr W/ $2k down for my YMB/SO m3
Great deal, do you mind telling us what the sticker price was? I'm in the market. Thanks.
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My CA showed me a letter from BMWNA the other day saying they are trying to increase US M3 allocations. I guess a lot of dealers are complaining about not getting enough.

Here in Atlanta there seems to be a larger M4 population but not by too much. I would say 60/40. 6MT on the other hand is a real rarity.
Thanks for the info dmk. Sounds like there genuinely is an increasing demand for M3s outside this forum, and BMW AG are starting to get the message. That's a good thing.

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It's just if you don't select any much option I feel like it's not a luxurious. And most people have this car as a mostly everyday and not so much weekend car right? So I mean that's why I think full optioned is pretty normal to think about it.
I certainly agree with you that most people tend to option the cars up, so from a business perspective it is totally understandable for the dealerships to order them that way. Regarding the luxury and daily driving aspect, we'll leave the discussion as is so we don't drag the thread off topic.
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There could be an assembly line related issue with M3s that they need to work out. Perhaps they're not fully re-tooled yet and ready to pump out 2016 M3s in mass.
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      08-21-2015, 09:02 AM   #58
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You would think this is something BMW would have accounted for. This generation sedan is so much more desirable than the last gen sedan. CF roof, same weight, same performance, fenders, etc.

I live in the nations 4th largest city and see more M4's than M3's, although I see neither frequently.
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Thanks for the info dmk. Sounds like there genuinely is an increasing demand for M3s outside this forum, and BMW AG are starting to get the message. That's a good thing.



I certainly agree with you that most people tend to option the cars up, so from a business perspective it is totally understandable for the dealerships to order them that way. Regarding the luxury and daily driving aspect, we'll leave the discussion as is so we don't drag the thread off topic.
Personally I wish they would keep the M3 more rare like the E90. Keeps our resale value higher. But I guess it is good for the people who cannot get one
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It seems they simply grossly overestimated the number of people who would wait a year for those LED tail lights they were preparing. Oh well. Anyway, now that that's out of the way they can give the guys in the trenches the orders: "Release the M3s!".

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You would think this is something BMW would have accounted for. This generation sedan is so much more desirable than the last gen sedan. CF roof, same weight, same performance, fenders, etc.

I live in the nations 4th largest city and see more M4's than M3's, although I see neither frequently.
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You would think this is something BMW would have accounted for. This generation sedan is so much more desirable than the last gen sedan. CF roof, same weight, same performance, fenders, etc.

I live in the nations 4th largest city and see more M4's than M3's, although I see neither frequently.
The weight difference between the F80 M3 and F82 M4 is pretty much the same as the weight difference between the E90 M3 and E92 M3: ~50lb
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It seems they simply grossly underestimated the number of people who would wait a year for those LED tail lights they were preparing. Oh well. Anyway, now that that's out of the way they can give the guys in the trenches the orders: "Release the M3s!".
I dunno my CA seemed to fight for M3 allocations all year last year too. I simply think they underestimated the demand all together.
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I dunno my CA seemed to fight for M3 allocations all year last year too. I simply think they underestimated the demand all together.
Oops - I meant "overestimated".
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This whole demand and inventory situation makes me think about the end of the production cycle. Will the M3 be phased out sooner than the M4 just like the E90 was phased out ahead of the E92M? If so won't that make it even tougher to secure an M3 as it gets close to the end of its production cycle?
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They didnt want a shit load of pissed off M3 fan boys complaining about the LCI update just 1 year into the mix So they didnt allocate as many as the M4... Which remained the same
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I dunno my CA seemed to fight for M3 allocations all year last year too. I simply think they underestimated the demand all together.
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This whole demand and inventory situation makes me think about the end of the production cycle. Will the M3 be phased out sooner than the M4 just like the E90 was phased out ahead of the E92M? If so won't that make it even tougher to secure an M3 as it gets close to the end of its production cycle?
After one month of having my M4, I have zero desire to get an M3. But I'll admit that with so much talk about not many M3s around, I was starting to doubt myself. But now, zero desire
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