[mikey0120]

This evening, I was just about a mile or two from home, sitting at a light when the car just started to sputter... Immediately, the "yellow" indicator for check engine chimed on and the Service Engine Soon light also came on. I got the car home, shut her down for 5 minutes, started it back up and everything was fine. Same exact symptoms as the first time the fuel pump failed almost one year ago. Has anyone else gone through two fuel pumps?

[audiphile]

this crap is starting to scare me. I have a 10/06 335i sedan, and after 13K miles the pump is still original. But now it's taking more and more cranks to start up in the morning, up to 3-4 now, and I'm driving this POS off the cliff if it leaves me stranded again..

sorry about your troubles.

[e92phreak]

There are quite a few who have gone through two fuel pumps already.

[asian010]

remanufactured fuel pump?

[Aija]

in my 08 335, at 5k miles right now, i am starting to get long start-ups when i start the car from a cold engine. It takes anywhere to 1second (this is normal) to 6seconds!!!!

[ibimmer954]

I get long cranks occasionally. It happens only about 10% of the time or so. I'm not sure if it's 'correct', but it seems to be 'normal' for me. Nothing has died... yet.

[skeptic]

Originally Posted by audiphile

this crap is starting to scare me. I have a 10/06 335i sedan, and after 13K miles the pump is still original. But now it's taking more and more cranks to start up in the morning, up to 3-4 now, and I'm driving this POS off the cliff if it leaves me stranded again..

sorry about your troubles.

You should be covered by the following. Also be sure to visit the NHTSA site to file a complaint.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140023

SI B13 03 08
Fuel Systems April 2008
Technical Service

PERFORM THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED IN THIS SERVICE INFORMATION ON ALL AFFECTED VEHICLES THE NEXT TIME THEY ARE IN THE SHOP FOR MAINTENANCE OR REPAIRS.

SUBJECT
Service Action: Replace the High-Pressure Pump

MODEL
E90, E92, and E93 with the N54 engine produced from 06/01/2006 through 10/28/2006

SITUATION
An internal component in the high-pressure pump (HDP) may fail, causing drivability symptoms such as longer starting times or erratic engine operation. It may also lead to a premature failure of the HDP on vehicles at higher mileages.

Should this situation occur, the HDP emergency operation is activated and the Service Engine Soon lamp (MIL) is illuminated.

Note:

In this situation, the vehicle can continue to be driven, even for long distances, without any risk of breakdown.

AFFECTED VEHICLES
This Service Action involves E90, E92 and E93 vehicles with N54 engines which were produced from 06/01/2006 through 10/28/2006.

In order to determine whether a specific vehicle is affected by this Service Action, it will be necessary to utilize the "Service Menu" of DCSnet (Dealer Communication System) or the Key Reader. Based on the response of the system, either proceed with the corrective action or take no further action.

The chassis number ranges listed below are only for informational purposes and are not to be considered as the only deciding factor.

Model
Chassis Number Range
E90
FV750004 – FV75116
E90
KY60007 – KY60964
E90
PA65001 – PA87847
E92
P021102 – P032114
E92
PV80038 – PV83999
E93
PX45010 – PX45013
CORRECTION
Replace the high-pressure pump.

There is a similar TSB covering E90, E92, and E93 with the N54 engine, produced from 01/17/2007 through 01/25/07.

These TSBs fall far short of directly contacting us. They will only alert you then next time you go to a dealer for a service visit. They don't seem to care if you get stranded or are put into a dangerous situation.

Obviously BMW knows there is a problem, but the way they are addressing it is dumbfounding. Looks like the bean counters have straight jackets on those parts of the company that want to solve this.

Come on BMW, do the right thing.

[mfstout]

Mikey, take yours back in, make them put in a NEW one again. Sorry man. Good luck.

[thekurgan]

Originally Posted by mfstout

Mikey, take yours back in, make them put in a NEW one again. Sorry man. Good luck.

I was told the replacement pumps were remanufactured. I we were getting the newer Bosch units, that would be nice indeed.

[rwdcomplex]

I'm in the process of researching on getting a 335i after having driven one for an extended time.

Only thing that is holding me back is this fuel pump issue and how it has placed a few members in an embarrassing/ potentially dangerous situation.

The misses wants a bmw as her next vehicle. It's down to either a 328i or 335i. However; I would feel guilty if I bought the 335i and "when" that special day happens she would ask me did I know this was an issue before purchasing the vehicle. It looks like like the 328i may get the nod because it's more reliable.

Electrical nick nacks going bad in a german car I wouldn't mind so much but rule #1 in my book is the vehicle must be reliable to run and not leave you stranded.

Come on BMW fix this issue right. Is it too much to ask for the 2009 models to have the proper working fuel pump

Has any member thought of swapping the fuel pump for an aftermarket/more efficient fuel pump like a walbro?

[noro]

Originally Posted by rwdcomplex

I'm in the process of researching on getting a 335i after having driven one for an extended time.

Only thing that is holding me back is this fuel pump issue and how it has placed a few members in an embarrassing/ potentially dangerous situation.

The misses wants a bmw as her next vehicle. It's down to either a 328i or 335i. However; I would feel guilty if I bought the 335i and "when" that special day happens she would ask me did I know this was an issue before purchasing the vehicle. It looks like like the 328i may get the nod because it's more reliable.

Electrical nick nacks going bad in a german car I wouldn't mind so much but rule #1 in my book is the vehicle must be reliable to run and not leave you stranded.

Come on BMW fix this issue right. Is it too much to ask for the 2009 models to have the proper working fuel pump

Has any member thought of swapping the fuel pump for an aftermarket/more efficient fuel pump like a walbro?

If you don't have to have the extra power go with the 328. It's a better car overall when considering weight, fuel economy, reliability and maintenance (after warranty is over).

[mikey0120]

Originally Posted by mfstout

Mikey, take yours back in, make them put in a NEW one again. Sorry man. Good luck.

I think I am going to do that... again.

Thanks everyone for the feedback.

[Kiss335i]

Originally Posted by mikey0120

This evening, I was just about a mile or two from home, sitting at a light when the car just started to sputter... Immediately, the "yellow" indicator for check engine chimed on and the Service Engine Soon light also came on. I got the car home, shut her down for 5 minutes, started it back up and everything was fine. Same exact symptoms as the first time the fuel pump failed almost one year ago. Has anyone else gone through two fuel pumps?

I got the same problem last friday, so I went to my dealer and they perform 2 oil changes (as specified per a BMW service bulletin) to clean the engine from small metal debris that can obstruct sensors in the engine. After that the car was performing better than ever!

[EDK99]

Originally Posted by skeptic

You should be covered by the following. Also be sure to visit the NHTSA site to file a complaint.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140023

SI B13 03 08
Fuel Systems April 2008
Technical Service

PERFORM THE PROCEDURE OUTLINED IN THIS SERVICE INFORMATION ON ALL AFFECTED VEHICLES THE NEXT TIME THEY ARE IN THE SHOP FOR MAINTENANCE OR REPAIRS.

SUBJECT
Service Action: Replace the High-Pressure Pump

MODEL
E90, E92, and E93 with the N54 engine produced from 06/01/2006 through 10/28/2006

SITUATION
An internal component in the high-pressure pump (HDP) may fail, causing drivability symptoms such as longer starting times or erratic engine operation. It may also lead to a premature failure of the HDP on vehicles at higher mileages.

Should this situation occur, the HDP emergency operation is activated and the Service Engine Soon lamp (MIL) is illuminated.

Note:

In this situation, the vehicle can continue to be driven, even for long distances, without any risk of breakdown.

AFFECTED VEHICLES
This Service Action involves E90, E92 and E93 vehicles with N54 engines which were produced from 06/01/2006 through 10/28/2006.

In order to determine whether a specific vehicle is affected by this Service Action, it will be necessary to utilize the "Service Menu" of DCSnet (Dealer Communication System) or the Key Reader. Based on the response of the system, either proceed with the corrective action or take no further action.

The chassis number ranges listed below are only for informational purposes and are not to be considered as the only deciding factor.

Model
Chassis Number Range
E90
FV750004 – FV75116
E90
KY60007 – KY60964
E90
PA65001 – PA87847
E92
P021102 – P032114
E92
PV80038 – PV83999
E93
PX45010 – PX45013
CORRECTION
Replace the high-pressure pump.

There is a similar TSB covering E90, E92, and E93 with the N54 engine, produced from 01/17/2007 through 01/25/07.

These TSBs fall far short of directly contacting us. They will only alert you then next time you go to a dealer for a service visit. They don't seem to care if you get stranded or are put into a dangerous situation.

Obviously BMW knows there is a problem, but the way they are addressing it is dumbfounding. Looks like the bean counters have straight jackets on those parts of the company that want to solve this.

Come on BMW, do the right thing.

My car falls into the criteria for this TSB but I will insist the next time that I'm in for service that the DO NOT REPLACE MY PERFECTLY WORKING FUEL PUMP WITH ONE THAT MAY STILL FAIL. Their has been no evidence that this problem has been fixed and cars rolling off the assembly line today still have the problem. I still feel this thing is over blown and that only a small percentage of cars have had this problem.

Just my .02

[Bimmer335i]

Originally Posted by asian010

remanufactured fuel pump?

Yep, at least 99% of the time. My 2nd pump was a remanufactured pump. Unsat!!

[asif163]

Originally Posted by Aija

in my 08 335, at 5k miles right now, i am starting to get long start-ups when i start the car from a cold engine. It takes anywhere to 1second (this is normal) to 6seconds!!!!

Hey man same thing happened to me last week. Car is at 6k miles and started to have long cranks- then I got the "engine malfunction, reduced power" light as well as the "service engine soon" light. Took it in this past Saturday- waiting for the fuel pump to arrive from the dealer's warehouse (if they have it) otherwise it'll be ordered from Deutscheland- if that happens then I have to live with the damn POS Ford Focus loaner for a couple of days longer

[asif163]

Originally Posted by mikey0120

This evening, I was just about a mile or two from home, sitting at a light when the car just started to sputter... Immediately, the "yellow" indicator for check engine chimed on and the Service Engine Soon light also came on. I got the car home, shut her down for 5 minutes, started it back up and everything was fine. Same exact symptoms as the first time the fuel pump failed almost one year ago. Has anyone else gone through two fuel pumps?

Oh you're one more fuel pump away from having a LEMON!

[rwdcomplex]

Curious for those that had their fuel pumps replaced what was the condition of the filter?

I doubt anyone has inquired their SA on the condition or seen the filter first hand but it's something to remember when you get the fuel pump swapped out.

Was it clogged with debris?

A clogged fuel pump filter can make the unit work harder thus overheating it.

When I replaced the stock fuel pump on my current ride with a higher flowing unit the filter was clogged with sand and rocks. I couldn't believe what was trapped in the filter.

For that day onward I refilled my gas tank at around the 1/4 mark before empty as a way to make sure the gunk at the bottom of the fuel tank doesn't get sucked up by the fuel pump.

If members would like to post their gas refilling habits that may help things. (i.e. do you wait unit the gas tank light comes on, etc).

cheers