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      12-10-2019, 01:57 AM   #1
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MRG Titanium Stud Issues?

I've had the MRG Titanium Stud Conversion Kit for about 2 years (and used for about 20,000 km/12,000 miles). Street use only, never tracked; I only bought them for cosmetics.

However, my mechanic informed me today that my front studs (all 10 of them) are damaged and galled, and that I'm not driving out of his shop due to safety concerns. Thankfully, he caught the issue before a wheel flew off on the highway!

My mechanic suspects that they were either over-torqued (causing threading issues), or under-torqued (which, combined with aggressive driving, causes galling).

I know they were torqued fine, because I followed the installation instructions and hand torqued them myself. In fact, the rear 10 studs didn't show any issues and were torqued to 88 ft lbs, just like the fronts.

So, I'm confused with what's going on! Is this problematic with titanium in general? Anyone have similar issues? Should this be brought to the attention of MRG?

I remember paying almost $500 USD for these, and to have them almost claim my life is a bit of a worry!
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      12-10-2019, 07:09 PM   #2
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I looked into these over a year ago and found this to be an issue that could occur. Which is why I passed on this mod. Safe drivings to ones who do have these installed.
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      12-11-2019, 09:21 AM   #3
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basically, never EVER use titanium wheel hardware

This is standard operating procedure for titanium stuff
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      12-11-2019, 10:19 AM   #4
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The issues are typically user error.

The threads are straight and not rolled so they are easy to cross. You cannot use an impact wrench whatsoever.

I've ran them but I don't anymore since I'm just about the quick and easy and don't want to think about it. But they look good and don't oxidize.
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      12-11-2019, 10:38 AM   #5
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The issues are typically user error.

The threads are straight and not rolled so they are easy to cross. You cannot use an impact wrench whatsoever.

I've ran them but I don't anymore since I'm just about the quick and easy and don't want to think about it. But they look good and don't oxidize.
Never have used an impact wrench. Even MRG's instructions caution against its use. It seems titanium is problematic in general.
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How would they become damaged and galled then.
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      12-11-2019, 10:51 AM   #7
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How would they become damaged and galled then.
Welcome to my questions I posted the day before yesterday.
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      12-12-2019, 04:38 PM   #8
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They can get damaged/galled if you don’t apply anti seize to lubricate the threads upon first use and occasionally after that. I never heard of this and had to do some reasearch when I purchased titanium lug bolts, but sure as shit I found a company who manufactures ti studs/bolts and they specifically state to use anti seize then torque to oem spec (110ftlbs).
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They can get damaged/galled if you don't apply anti seize to lubricate the threads upon first use and occasionally after that. I never heard of this and had to do some reasearch when I purchased titanium lug bolts, but sure as shit I found a company who manufactures ti studs/bolts and they specifically state to use anti seize then torque to oem spec (110ftlbs).
MRG omitted that from their instructions, so definitely do not use anti-seize with MRG studs, if that's what you're using.

I never used anti-seize. There tends to be mixed reviews with regards to the use of anti-seize and titanium hardware. Some say yay, some say nay.
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