[MrBigglesworthe]

I just got my new 335xi coupe and first thing I did was upgrade to new wheels and tires. It came with 17" 339s I believe and I bought the 19" staggered 313 reps from **********s (Eurosport 5371's) and some Hancook v12s.

Had them put on yesterday afternoon and I didn't use the highway to much, but when I did it was fine. Fast forward to yesterday evening and there was a good amount of vibration between 60-80mph. Went back to the shop who rebalanced them, same issue. Went to another shop, they balanced them using a road force machine and said they were off. After new balancing went for a drive, same problem.

Any ideas? I haven't hit pot holes or any big bumps, and the shop said they didn't appear to be bent.

[Route 16]

Need wheel hub centric rings?

[MrBigglesworthe]

Well I know when I opened one of the boxes the wheels came in, it had a silver ring in the box.. not sure if that's what you're talking about.

[hsiehson]

Have you tried the original wheels and see if they vibrate like that as well?
Thought they have tested them at high speed, even with new wheels.

[MrBigglesworthe]

Originally Posted by hsiehson

Have you tried the original wheels and see if they vibrate like that as well?
Thought they have tested them at high speed, even with new wheels.

Not yet, going to have the shop check and make sure all the hub centric rings are on, then have them test for a bent rim if they can. If all else fails I'll have to get the old ones put back and and start at square 1 unless someone else has any other ideas.

There's only so much money I want to throw away testing things, so far I've wasted the weekend and $250 between the balancing costs of two different shops.

[Route 16]

Let us know what you find out.

[Kolyan2k]

I had this issue, one V12 was defective. I was doing balancing at dealer because I don't trust other shops, they pinpointed which tire is defective and replaced it. Local tire shop paid for all labor because they simply were not able to balance these

[DASHOCKER]

get roadforce balancing

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

get roadforce balancing

thats what he did.......

but i would still advise to use dealership vs some chain tire shop. my understanding is that all balancing machines must be calibrated well in order to give perfect balancing. you also need to note to dealer that you have tried to balance the tires number of times without success

[mccannable]

Good luck. Iv been chasing the same issue when I got re760s a few months ago. Even had them replaced.

[MrBigglesworthe]

Well I had them re-balanced again at a third shop, who said they were not balanced and needed weights. Still had the same issue on the highway though. The only other thing they noted was the hubcentric rings were a thin plastic and may be the issue. I called **********s and am having them overnight me some aluminum ones which I'll have put on tomorrow. If that doesn't work then it HAS to be the tires, even though the third shop I went to today said they discovered no "hops" while balancing the wheels/tires, which typically happens with bad tires.

I should know tomorrow... hopefully.

[VMRWheels]

Since you already had them roadforce balanced, I don't think the tires are balanced incorrectly. However, vibration at those speeds is normally a balancing issue. The 'plastic' rings you found inside your boxes are most likely hub centric rings. You'll need to pop them into the back of your wheel to prevent any vibration issues you're having. If you think the wheel is bent, try doing a 'run-out' on the wheel. There's a sensor they can put onto the wheel and rotate it to check for any irregularities in the roundness of the rim.

[gizmo335i]

I'm having the same issue. I posted but got no response. When I got a road force balance done the guy showed me my wheels were a little off-perfect. But I'm only getting vibration from 60-80 like OP says.

Keep us updated please OP...I'd like to know if you ever get this solved. I'm going crazy with mine...

[MrBigglesworthe]

Since you already had them roadforce balanced, I don't think the tires are balanced incorrectly. However, vibration at those speeds is normally a balancing issue. The 'plastic' rings you found inside your boxes are most likely hub centric rings. You'll need to pop them into the back of your wheel to prevent any vibration issues you're having. If you think the wheel is bent, try doing a 'run-out' on the wheel. There's a sensor they can put onto the wheel and rotate it to check for any irregularities in the roundness of the rim.

The hubcentric rings that came with the wheels are already installed and I'm still having the issue. 3 different wheel shops are telling me the wheels don't seem bent and have balanced out the wheels multiple times.

Originally Posted by gizmo335i

I'm having the same issue. I posted but got no response. When I got a road force balance done the guy showed me my wheels were a little off-perfect. But I'm only getting vibration from 60-80 like OP says.

Keep us updated please OP...I'd like to know if you ever get this solved. I'm going crazy with mine...

I'll definetly update as soon as I get the rings in tomorrow morning. And if that doesn't work, expect to see me on the morning news .. blowing up the Hancook factory for selling me defective tires.

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworthe

Well I had them re-balanced again at a third shop, who said they were not balanced and needed weights. Still had the same issue on the highway though. The only other thing they noted was the hubcentric rings were a thin plastic and may be the issue. I called **********s and am having them overnight me some aluminum ones which I'll have put on tomorrow. If that doesn't work then it HAS to be the tires, even though the third shop I went to today said they discovered no "hops" while balancing the wheels/tires, which typically happens with bad tires.

I should know tomorrow... hopefully.

are you taking it to different dealerships ? i dont get it, road force can pin point which wheel or tire is not good. the machine is supposed to give you lbs of road force per each wheel. the one thats off is defective.

Its relatively normal to get a defective tire, not to mention that Hankook is a budget brand.

[MrBigglesworthe]

Originally Posted by Kolyan2k

are you taking it to different dealerships ? i dont get it, road force can pin point which wheel or tire is not good. the machine is supposed to give you lbs of road force per each wheel. the one thats off is defective.

Its relatively normal to get a defective tire, not to mention that Hankook is a budget brand.

No I have not taken it to any dealerships, just tire shops near the house. So far I've gone to Pepboys, Firestone (Road Force), and Town Fair Tire. I've usually had luck at all three, and at Firestone they did not mention anything about one being more off than the others. I even called Tire Rack today and spoke to a lady who actually called 2 of the shops and said they didn't mention "hops" in their reports. If the rings fail tomorrow I may have to go to the dealer and pay their ridiculous hourly rates just to find a defective tire.

I've never had Hancook's before, and I only bought them because a lot of members on this board have pretty good reviews for them. I usually buy higher end name brand tires otherwise.

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworthe

No I have not taken it to any dealerships, just tire shops near the house. So far I've gone to Pepboys, Firestone (Road Force), and Town Fair Tire. I've usually had luck at all three, and at Firestone they did not mention anything about one being more off than the others. I even called Tire Rack today and spoke to a lady who actually called 2 of the shops and said they didn't mention "hops" in their reports. If the rings fail tomorrow I may have to go to the dealer and pay their ridiculous hourly rates just to find a defective tire.

I've never had Hancook's before, and I only bought them because a lot of members on this board have pretty good reviews for them. I usually buy higher end name brand tires otherwise.

well, all those shops are shit. I've used Firestone before and Town Fair few month ago, I ended up balancing at the dealer both times to solve vibration problems

PS. dont know if this can be done with BMW, but Honda only charged me $80 bucks and then another $20 to mount and balance defective tire.

[gizmo335i]

Damnit...now you're pursuading me to try the dealer.....maybe I can get my SA to not rape me...he's pretty cool...

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by gizmo335i

Damnit...now you're pursuading me to try the dealer.....maybe I can get my SA to not rape me...he's pretty cool...

buy him a nice bottle of cognac.....that will smooth things out a bit

[gizmo335i]

lol....yeah...I'll bring some good scotch...

I don't think the dealer will fix my problem.....but we'll see eventually.

One thing I've noticed...it's worse when it's hot outside. If the weather is nice...it's much less. So I think I'm gonna wait out the heat first. I'm gonna get new rotors/try another set of spacers/maybe a new set of wheels...

[MrBigglesworthe]

Well I recieved the hubcentric rings that Alan @ **********s sent me, brought them into my wheel shop to get those installed and have the wheels/tires balanced for the 5th time and guess what? 3 out of 4 rims I recieved are bent. I wouldn't have known if the tech doing the balancing wasn't so particular, especially considering he's the only one to have caught this. He pulled me into the garage and showed me by putting them on the force balance machine, closing the cover so the wheel begins to spin, then opening the cover and while theyre still spinning you can see a wobble.

I put in a call to **********s, Alan was busy so I spoke to some other salesperson who said he'd call their Miami supplier where the rims came from and see what they say. It's been almost a week since I've been dealing with this mess and I hope **********s comes through with their customer service.

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by MrBigglesworthe

Well I recieved the hubcentric rings that Alan @ **********s sent me, brought them into my wheel shop to get those installed and have the wheels/tires balanced for the 5th time and guess what? 3 out of 4 rims I recieved are bent. I wouldn't have known if the tech doing the balancing wasn't so particular, especially considering he's the only one to have caught this. He pulled me into the garage and showed me by putting them on the force balance machine, closing the cover so the wheel begins to spin, then opening the cover and while theyre still spinning you can see a wobble.

I put in a call to **********s, Alan was busy so I spoke to some other salesperson who said he'd call their Miami supplier where the rims came from and see what they say. It's been almost a week since I've been dealing with this mess and I hope **********s comes through with their customer service.

yeah its a pain in the ass. i already knew that town fair cannot balance wheels, but they assured me they CAN. I let them try 3 times, after that they had to pay my dealer to do the job the right way. and of course overnighted defective tire without hassle. also got free alignment and back-dated receipt to get rebate for tires

at the end it worked out great for me.