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      06-11-2014, 12:15 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Sportauto supertest Nurburgring and Hockenheim laptimes: 7.52 / 1:12.18 min

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Nurburgring: 7.52 min
Hockenheim: 1:12.18 min


O-100km/h 4.2 sec
0-160kmh 8.8 sec
0-200kmh 13.7 sec

Tyres: Michelin Pilot Supersport + ceramic brakes + DCT

Total score: 78 points (M3 E92: 70 p, 911 Carrera s: 90 points)





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      06-11-2014, 12:16 PM   #2
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Outstanding time! On the pss, correct?
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      06-11-2014, 12:25 PM   #3
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Great time and a meaningful improvement!!
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      06-11-2014, 12:29 PM   #4
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source link please and thank you. Great info btw
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      06-11-2014, 12:34 PM   #5
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I got all the past sport auto test times for M3.

Hockenheim

E30 M3 Sport Evo 1.21.4
E36 M3 SMG 1.18.4
E46 M3 1.17.6
E46 M3 CSL 1.13.5
E92 M3 1.14.3
E92 M3 GTS 1.12.5
M4 1.12.8

F10 M5 1.13.4

Nordschleife

E30 M3 Sport Evo 8:50
E36 M3 SMG 8:35
E46 M3 8:22
E46 M3 CSL 7:50
E92 M3 8:05
E92 M3 GTS 7:49
M4 7:52

F10 M5 8:05

FYI: I put in M5's time because a lot of people seems like to throw F10 M5 into the mix.
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      06-11-2014, 12:36 PM   #6
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Not bad company to be in... impressive compared to the E92 M3 GTS Especially considering many cars have times published with the manufacturers professional drivers in absolutely ideal conditions.

64. Porsche 911 Turbo 7:47.00 Onboard N/A '09
65. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 7:48.00 Onboard N/A '06
66. BMW M3 GTS 7:48.00 Onboard N/A '10
67. Alpina B3 GT3 7:49.00 Onboard N/A '10
68. Lamborghini Murcielago 7:50.00 Onboard N/A '02
69. BMW M3 CSL 7:50.00 Onboard N/A '03
70. Porsche 911 Carrera S 7:50.00 Onboard N/A '08
71. Mercedes SL65 AMG Black Series 7:51.00 Onboard N/A '09
72. Jaguar XKR-S 7:51.00 Onboard N/A '11
73. Lamborghini Gallardo 7:52.00 Onboard N/A '03
74. Ford GT 7:52.00 Onboard N/A '04
75. Porsche Panamera Turbos S 7:52.00 Onboard N/A '11
76. Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 7:52.00 Onboard N/A '08
77. Mercedes CLK DTM 7:54.00 Onboard N/A '04
78. Porsche 911 GT3 7:54.00 Onboard N/A '03
79. Ferrari F430 7:55.00 Onboard N/A '05
80. Subaru WRX STI 7:55.00 Watch Onboard '10
81. Caterham R500 1.8L K Series 7:55.00 Onboard N/A '99
82. BMW M5 7:55.00 Onboard N/A '11
83. Porsche 911 Turbo 7:56.00 Onboard N/A '00
84. Ferrari 360 CS 7:56.00 Onboard N/A '03
85. Ferrari California GT 7:56.00 Onboard N/A '09
86. Porsche Panamera Sport Chrono Turbo 7:56.00 Onboard N/A '09
87. Porsche Panamera Turbo 7:56.00 Onboard N/A '09
88. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:56.00 Onboard N/A '02
89. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Coupé Electric Drive 7:56.23 Watch Onboard '13
90. Porsche 911 GT3 7:56.33 Onboard N/A '99
91. Honda NSX-R 7:56.73 Watch Onboard '02
92. Audi RS4 7:58.00 Onboard N/A '05
93. Seat Leon Cupra 7:58.40 Onboard N/A '14
94. Jaguar XKR-S Convertible 7:59.00 Onboard N/A '12
95. Chevrolet Corvette C6 7:59.00 Onboard N/A '04
96. Porsche 911 Carrera S 7:59.00 Onboard N/A '04
97. Cadillac CTS-V 7:59.32 Watch Onboard '09
98. Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe 8:01.00 Onboard N/A '11
99. Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe Performance Pkg 8:01.00 Onboard N/A '11
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      06-11-2014, 12:39 PM   #7
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Very nice info! (but, yes, source please)
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      06-11-2014, 12:40 PM   #8
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And here's the numbers for the 991 C2S since it's mentioned in OPs post.

The M4 matches or beats the C2S on every acceleration number but give up 8s on the ring and almost 2s at Hockenheim. All in all I say that's really good numbers for the M4.


Sport Auto Supertest - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991)
•Equipment: 400 hp, PDK, PCCB, PASM -20 mm
•Tyres: Pirelli P Zero N0
•Weight: 1497 kg
•0-100 km/h: 4,2 s
•0-200 km/h: 14,1 s (997.2 PDK: 14,9 s, 997.2 GTS: 13,8 s)
•Braking 100-0 km/h cold/warm: 33,8 m (1,16 g) / 33,5 m (1,17 g)
•Braking 200-0 km/h warm: 131,6 m (1,19 g)
•36 m slalom: 139 km/h
•110 m ISO evasive test: 156 km/h (997.2 GT3: 160 km/h)
•Wet handling: 1.46,1 min
Hockenheimring short course: 1.10,4 min - as fast as 997.2 GT3 on semi-slicks, 3 (!) seconds quicker than 997.2 S PDK.
Nürburgring-Nordschleife: 7.44 min - as fast as Turbo S, only 4 sec slower than 997.2 GT3 on Cup-tyres.
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      06-11-2014, 12:46 PM   #9
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      06-11-2014, 12:47 PM   #10
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Great OP and following contributions.

Thanks!
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      06-11-2014, 12:58 PM   #11
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      06-11-2014, 01:04 PM   #12
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Great lap time in the middle of formidable company; this car is a beast.
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      06-11-2014, 01:50 PM   #13
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Don't know why anyone finds this time all that surprisingly good. Many have stated will be a few secs slower than the GTS time..and guess what, right where it should be.
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Don't know why anyone finds this time all that surprisingly good. Many have stated will be a few secs slower than the GTS time..and guess what, right where it should be.
13 sec faster than its predecessor, that is impressive. It's even more impressive that it's only 3 sec slower than stripped out track car.

There have been quite a few deniers here thinking it was going to in the mid-to-high 50s so a time of 52 should quiet them.
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Predecessor = Sport Cup + (similar to today's PSS these were NOT the Sport Cups), No CCB, No DCT, no ZCP, no latest software.

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13 sec faster than its predecessor, that is impressive. It's even more impressive that it's only 3 sec slower than stripped out track car.

There have been quite a few deniers here thinking it was going to in the mid-to-high 50s so a time of 52 should quiet them.
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Predecessor = Sport Cup + (similar to today's PSS these were NOT the Sport Cups), No CCB, No DCT, no ZCP, no latest software.
Even still, it's significantly better.
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Looking good!!
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      06-11-2014, 02:07 PM   #19
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Predecessor = Sport Cup + (similar to today's PSS these were NOT the Sport Cups), No CCB, No DCT, no ZCP, no latest software.
I'll give you tires and CCB, but neither had ZCP and both had the latest software.

What tires was the GTS running on?
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Agreed... prob about 7-9 secs stock for stock, prob less if have CCB.
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Even still, it's significantly better.
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That's not how it felt to me from a test drive. There was no lack of power anywhere in the rev range that I could feel.
Yeah, something seems off with the dyno. It looks like they didn't give it full power until 3000 rpm or so. The torque at 1850 rpm is much less than the 406 lb/ft quoted by BMW.
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