Car and Driver reports BMW M4 coupe name confirmed - Page 3

gds52 · 12-08-2012, 05:01 PM

Thr shd not be any 4 door M except M5. Rest is just for profits

gambitx28 · 12-08-2012, 05:17 PM

Looks like there will be 4 door M3s permanently now.

antzcrashing · 12-08-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gambitx28

Looks like there will be 4 door M3s permanently now.

true, that is a nice side-effect of the 4D being the M3

GOLFFRR · 12-08-2012, 06:08 PM

looking forward to seeing how it all comes together. I personally see it taking a lot longer then a year in a half for the release though. thats just my opinion

TK-421 · 12-08-2012, 06:11 PM

Doesn't matter anyway since the M brand that came out with the E30 M3 is dead.

Pourky · 12-08-2012, 06:23 PM

I don't care what people say... I think it is so gay for them to rename the M3. There was SO much tradition and history behind that name! It is a big time brand name and an icon for BMW cars now and I feel like its being thrown away.

I just don't like that they are following the roots of what Audi are doing. Whoever is stupid enough to not understand the difference from a Coupe and Sedan doesn't deserve to drive a BMW. I mean do they have to have different number series to determine the difference between a coupe and sedan?

Everything was just fine with having 3 Series Coupe and 3 Series Sedan.

Yes I don't like the change. /end rant

wdeerfield · 12-08-2012, 06:30 PM

The sedan is a better car anyways. I think you'll see more four door m cars when these come out instead of their coupe counterparts. I'm excited for the m2 more as that's going to be the closest thing to the e46. Also liking the idea of an m2gc with xdrive!

silentassasin · 12-08-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by swanson

Of course. Now wait for the sticker shock.

LOL. probably.

wdeerfield · 12-08-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pourky

I don't care what people say... I think it is so gay for them to rename the M3. There was SO much tradition and history behind that name! It is a big time brand name and an icon for BMW cars now and I feel like its being thrown away.

I just don't like that they are following the roots of what Audi are doing. Whoever is stupid enough to not understand the difference from a Coupe and Sedan doesn't deserve to drive a BMW. I mean do they have to have different number series to determine the difference between a coupe and sedan?

Everything was just fine with having 3 Series Coupe and 3 Series Sedan.

Yes I don't like the change. /end rant

BMW answers your rant with "this version of the motorsports coupe is more of an evolution and not just a new m3 two door. We felt calling it the m4 displays this"

Translated: Audi was able to get away with charging more for less doors. Why can't we?

Vertigo//SD · 12-08-2012, 07:09 PM

Waiting for the ///M2

BlackJetE90 · 12-08-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Jelly M3

Let the badge whores chime in!

Ironically, BMW is being the badge whores here.

Bluesummer · 12-08-2012, 07:31 PM

Rebadge or debadge +9999

宝马.e90 · 12-08-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wdeerfield

BMW answers your rant with "this version of the motorsports coupe is more of an evolution and not just a new m3 two door. We felt calling it the m4 displays this"

Translated: Audi was able to get away with charging more for less doors. Why can't we?

But we don't even know if BMW is even going to charge a greater premium than what already exists with the E90/E92. If BMW stays with the E90/E92 price structure (where the difference isn't that large), there would be no reason to even change the name because everything would remain the same from the E90 and E92. Still too early to guess anything.

At the end, whatever happens, it's going to be a surprise or even more frustration/confusing. Either there will be a huge price hike resulting in further anger or price remains the same and we all sit here thinking "well what was the point of renaming?".

swanson · 12-08-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wdeerfield

BMW answers your rant with "this version of the motorsports coupe is more of an evolution and not just a new m3 two door. We felt calling it the m4 displays this"

Translated: Audi was able to get away with charging more for less doors. Why can't we?

BINGO! Instead of making the existing models better, BMW is diluting the brand by making too many models to sell more cars and in the process is making their cars "softer"

e92_m3 · 12-08-2012, 08:22 PM

"M4 Carbine" is the first thing I thought of when I saw the name.

positiveions · 12-08-2012, 09:00 PM

Even our beloved company is adjusting to time. Time will tell what will become of these high performance cars.

BryanJoslin · 12-08-2012, 09:13 PM

As much history as the M3 has, the 3-series in general has even more. Ironically, the first 3-series (E21) was only offered as a coupe, which makes the new nomenclature even more confounding. But we'll get used to it, no doubt.

Phil335 · 12-08-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wdeerfield

The sedan is a better car anyways. I think you'll see more four door m cars when these come out instead of their coupe counterparts. I'm excited for the m2 more as that's going to be the closest thing to the e46. Also liking the idea of an m2gc with xdrive!

Fail! Seriously? Coming from someone whose car gives me a nosebleed.

gds52 · 12-08-2012, 09:33 PM

No doubt with time u need to change.
Now since 2 door coupe will be M4, will 2 door convertible be called M3.5.......lol.
The other day I read an article on some Audi RS which is coming with V8, the article was like Audi showing finger to the whole world with V8...atleast they showed a finger to BMW M3-4 which is going I6 n no more NA.
Too many turbos will lead to more maintenance and hence lesser resale value.

Faust · 12-08-2012, 09:59 PM

Why do people say BMW is following Audi in rebadging sedans/coupes? The newer generation 6-Series(a 2-door 5 series basically) came out in 2003 (not to mention the first generation from the 80's) and a move to 3/4-series rebadging has been discussed for years already. The Audi A5 came out ony in 2007.

Cuz5150 · 12-08-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S

I'm sorry I feel its a mistake to name it a M4, it should still be a M3. Oh well..

Cuz5150, when I hear M4 I think of this..

Dave

You are correct. I try not to think about "that M4" since I live in the banana republic of New Jersey

Can't have that

AhsanU · 12-08-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OverDriven

Rebadging the M4 to M3 after you buy one makes no sense. If you really care about the name that much then you're a BMW fan for the wrong reason. Personally, I'm a fan because of the cars, not the name.

You can also be a fan of the heritage.

The M3 has been an iconic car for the past few decades and is the benchmark performance car in which all cars must match up against. I would want this heritage, this M3 badge, on the back of my car. Symbolizing the fact that it is a car to be revered. You can be a fan of the performance and the name; there's nothing saying you have to pick one.

If I do get an M4, I'll likely de-badge instead of re-badging it. To each his own I say. It's your car, if you feel like running around with an M3 badge on an M4 - by all means. It'll stir up confusion amongst people looking at it but who cares! It's your car, do what you feel is right

12-08-2012, 05:17 PM	#46
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12-08-2012, 06:11 PM	#49
TK-421 Registered Sex Offender Drives: E30 \| E46 M3 \| S13 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,680 iTrader: (0)	Doesn't matter anyway since the M brand that came out with the E30 M3 is dead. __________________ Stop putting stuff like painted reflectors and premium package in your signature. You're embarrassing.

12-08-2012, 06:23 PM	#50
Pourky Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i / E46 M3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles / SoCal Posts: 248 iTrader: (5)	I don't care what people say... I think it is so gay for them to rename the M3. There was SO much tradition and history behind that name! It is a big time brand name and an icon for BMW cars now and I feel like its being thrown away. I just don't like that they are following the roots of what Audi are doing. Whoever is stupid enough to not understand the difference from a Coupe and Sedan doesn't deserve to drive a BMW. I mean do they have to have different number series to determine the difference between a coupe and sedan? Everything was just fine with having 3 Series Coupe and 3 Series Sedan. Yes I don't like the change. /end rant __________________ 2007 E92 335i - Cobb AP (Custom Tune) / AR Catless DPs / ETS Chargepipe / HKS SSQV BOV / AFE Stage 2 DCI / MagnaFlow Exhaust / LUX V3 Angel Eyes / H&R Race Springs / Too Many Cosmetic Upgrades to List Currently - 365whp / 420 wtq

12-08-2012, 06:30 PM	#51
wdeerfield Major Drives: 2009 328i xdrive Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 1,440 iTrader: (0)	The sedan is a better car anyways. I think you'll see more four door m cars when these come out instead of their coupe counterparts. I'm excited for the m2 more as that's going to be the closest thing to the e46. Also liking the idea of an m2gc with xdrive! __________________ 2009 MBM \| ZPP \| ZSP \| ZCW \| CA \| 6FL \| NAV \| XENONS \| 18x8.5 VB3s ET30/25

12-08-2012, 05:01 PM	#45
gds52 Major Drives: BMW 328i Convertible Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 1,002 iTrader: (0)	Thr shd not be any 4 door M except M5. Rest is just for profits

12-08-2012, 07:09 PM	#54
Vertigo//SD Second Lieutenant Drives: '13 X1 xDrive28i M-sport Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 295 iTrader: (1)	Waiting for the ///M2

12-08-2012, 07:31 PM	#56
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12-08-2012, 08:22 PM	#59
e92_m3 Major Drives: 2009 e92 m3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 1,469 iTrader: (0)	"M4 Carbine" is the first thing I thought of when I saw the name. __________________ Hellaflush? All I could say is "effyo'flush",*"flushnuff", and Instead of 'illest', I'm calling it "faillest"*. It's just form over function nowadays... -END RANT

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positiveions Major General Drives: 09 MKV JETTA 2.5 & E90 M3 :) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 8,829 iTrader: (1)	Even our beloved company is adjusting to time. Time will tell what will become of these high performance cars. __________________

12-08-2012, 09:13 PM	#61
BryanJoslin Registered Drives: 2012 X3 35i Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 1 iTrader: (0)	As much history as the M3 has, the 3-series in general has even more. Ironically, the first 3-series (E21) was only offered as a coupe, which makes the new nomenclature even more confounding. But we'll get used to it, no doubt.

12-08-2012, 09:33 PM	#63
gds52 Major Drives: BMW 328i Convertible Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 1,002 iTrader: (0)	No doubt with time u need to change. Now since 2 door coupe will be M4, will 2 door convertible be called M3.5.......lol. The other day I read an article on some Audi RS which is coming with V8, the article was like Audi showing finger to the whole world with V8...atleast they showed a finger to BMW M3-4 which is going I6 n no more NA. Too many turbos will lead to more maintenance and hence lesser resale value.

12-08-2012, 09:59 PM	#64
Faust Private Drives: Vauxhall Calibra Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London Posts: 81 iTrader: (0)	Why do people say BMW is following Audi in rebadging sedans/coupes? The newer generation 6-Series(a 2-door 5 series basically) came out in 2003 (not to mention the first generation from the 80's) and a move to 3/4-series rebadging has been discussed for years already. The Audi A5 came out ony in 2007. Last edited by Faust; 12-08-2012 at 10:07 PM.

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