|
Post Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
02-19-2013, 08:25 PM | #89 |
Brigadier General
1920
Rep 3,222
Posts
Drives: 2018 BMW 440i GC
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern MA
|
i like those answers
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-19-2013, 10:18 PM | #90 | |
VROOOOM
4
Rep 41
Posts |
Quote:
I am really disappointed in the direction BMW is going. They are investing all their money and time into electrical cars and fuel economy. For god sakes make one super-car that will prove that BMW M division is still a competitor. All they talk about lately is fuel economy and bla bla. I know it's market driven but the way its going, BMW era will soon be over and it will be another car on the road. Hence I am holding on to my E93 M3 and E39 M5 till the end. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-19-2013, 10:28 PM | #91 | |
Major General
1053
Rep 5,660
Posts |
Quote:
I think nearly everyone knows how they quantify "demand:" if the quantity of MTs they can build and sell will yield a profit, they will keep building and selling them.
__________________
Cheers,
Tony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ '07, e92 335i, Sparkling Graphite, Coral Leather, Aluminum, 6-speed |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-19-2013, 10:39 PM | #92 | |
Second Lieutenant
23
Rep 292
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2015 435i Xdrive Black on Black with loaded
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-20-2013, 01:24 AM | #94 |
Private First Class
10
Rep 182
Posts |
Ha that is funny!!
__________________
JB4/MHD, Stage 2 lpf,3.5 tmap, AFE DCI AND SCOOPS, ETS 7" Intercooler, AR Catted Downpipes, MMP Inlets,CP-E Exhaust, Carbon FIber CSL Style Trunk lid, M3 Side Skirts, Mtech front lip spoiler, Mtech rear bumper w/carbon diffuser and Alloy Technic 19" matte black rims.
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-20-2013, 01:35 AM | #95 | |
S0THPAW
8736
Rep 7,847
Posts |
Quote:
My current FI engine does higher mpg than my former M3 NA V8. You can use the higher torque to stay in a higher gear than the NA M V8, press the throttle less and still accellerate in the same or faster way than that NA engine. Which makes it in THAT particular comparison the higher mpg engine. Pedal to the metal the differences get smaller or dissapear of course But I 'm not 24/7 on a track/WOT. Don't know about you The F10 M5 irl is getting higher MPG than its predecessor E60 M5.... The RWD vs AWD debate: Make it an option to choose AWD... RWD also in the snow (with the M Diff and PROPER wintertyres on ) much more fun and more than enough traction but better playable as well. On a track we already know the answer.(ie 1M vs RS3) Cheers Robin |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-20-2013, 09:34 AM | #96 |
Lieutenant
62
Rep 499
Posts |
Gov regulations seem to make high horsepower cars weigh a lot unless you have the scrilla
A proper manual and rwd gives you the oh shit factor... Even w dct.. Most would still get the manual if it's available... Awd takes no skill Safety over fun? Power to weight is where it is at.... M diff and light weight can give efficiency and rwd still maintain the oh shit factor Amg makes good engine the rest is bloat, Audi awd is too front wheel biased and feels too safe and boring for fun it is hard to eclipse a certain efficiency at high power levels... It's like becoming more like a corvette and less like an Aston And w BMW's green trend, it is what it is just enjoy M while we can before it becomes I and this forum becomes all about fuelly and my MPG is bigger than yours |
Appreciate
0
|
02-20-2013, 09:57 AM | #97 |
Major
354
Rep 1,405
Posts |
"But as long as there is demand, we'll offer the manual."
This guy is not very excited about the future of the 6 spd. Could it be because the e9x M 6spd eats too much gas. The DCT gets better, noticeably better, gas mileage than its 6spd brother. Without a 6spd offer, the M3 MPG sticker numbers would probably go up a notch or two. That's something BMW would die for because, like it or not, those numbers, among other things, sell cars. |
Appreciate
0
|
02-20-2013, 02:13 PM | #99 |
Lieutenant
62
Rep 499
Posts |
I am hoping bmw keeps the manual around...
Didn't BMW just patent a 7-speed manual for its own use like Porsche did? I really like manual with turbo cars... and dct with na I am not sure why... maybe it's the bov noise I also really hope BMW brings not just awd, but m awd with a manual transmission for those enthusiasts... but is it that the manual can't handle the torque for warranty issues? I become more attached to a car when it is a manual because it is more engaging and you become one with the car |
Appreciate
0
|
02-21-2013, 01:59 AM | #100 | |
Second Lieutenant
47
Rep 230
Posts |
Quote:
review: http://www.topgear.com/uk/bmw/5-seri...-xdrive-driven M registry: http://www.bmwmregistry.com/detail.php?id=11238 You just don't. Mine are equipped, both. RWD with winter tires may fail in simple situations. Everybody knows that.
__________________
e36->f48->....
Last edited by KSERGEI-BY; 02-21-2013 at 06:18 AM.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-21-2013, 02:04 AM | #101 | |
Second Lieutenant
47
Rep 230
Posts |
Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quattro...l-drive_system)
__________________
e36->f48->....
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-21-2013, 05:10 AM | #102 |
Captain
90
Rep 850
Posts |
The problem with offering AWD as an options is just like the DCT problem. DCT is so popular that Porsche will be offering the GT3 just with PDK, the MT is gone. Just like how the M3 is the only M car available with a stick here and i'm sure for the next gen it will be a DCT only option. This will happen to RWD sooner or later if BMW starts to add AWD option. After a period of time, BMW M Boss will come in and say "We must keep up with technology, RWD is history" and such. What you said is nice and will solve all the problems, but that's not gonna happen. Not at least with current BMW managers who's their first goal is making more money no matter what.
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-21-2013, 05:27 AM | #103 | |
Captain
90
Rep 850
Posts |
Quote:
Regarding to other Quattro cars, they are not close to R8. The last Quattro car i tested was a pre-facelift RS5 and it suffered from understeer because if it sensed any traction lose, it would send more power to the front wheels which always makes things worse. The Audi driver said it's because i wasn't familiar with the nose-heavy layout, but whatever it was the car didn't work like it supposed to do. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-21-2013, 06:05 AM | #104 | |
First Lieutenant
46
Rep 339
Posts |
Quote:
Don't think AWD would make M5 any better. In fact with extra weight it would make it even less fun to drive
__________________
-13 F10 M5 6MT (Amazonite Silver)
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-21-2013, 07:40 AM | #105 |
Colonel
338
Rep 2,940
Posts |
with regards to AWD/RWD and driving dynamics.....
BMW's contention of RWD giving a more precise and dynamic feel falls flat on its face in relation to the design direction of the rest of the cars, especially the M5 and M6. If you want precise and dynamic, you need smaller and lighter. If you are going to build large brutish luxo-powerhouses, that is fine, but in that case, give them AWD to get the power to the ground. The M5 can't get it's existing power to the ground effectively, and the dynamics are compromised by its size. Could you imagine a car with todays technology and materials in the size of the E39 M5? How about a 3800lb M5 with a twin turbo 4L V8 that produces like 470hp and 400 lb-ft. That car with 255/295 tires and RWD would be phenomenal.
__________________
Audi S6 * Audi S3 * Porsche Cayman GTS
--Former BMW M3 owner |
Appreciate
0
|
02-22-2013, 02:28 AM | #106 | |
Lieutenant General
611
Rep 10,407
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
E92 M3 | Space Gray on Fox Red | M-DCT | CF Roof | RAC RG63 Wheels | Brembo 380mm BBK | | Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust | Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors | | Alekshop Back up Camera | GP Thunders | BMW Aluminum Pedals | Elite Angels | | XPEL Full Front Wrap | Hardwired V1 | Interior Xenon Light Kit | |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-22-2013, 02:31 AM | #107 | |
Lieutenant General
611
Rep 10,407
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
E92 M3 | Space Gray on Fox Red | M-DCT | CF Roof | RAC RG63 Wheels | Brembo 380mm BBK | | Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust | Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors | | Alekshop Back up Camera | GP Thunders | BMW Aluminum Pedals | Elite Angels | | XPEL Full Front Wrap | Hardwired V1 | Interior Xenon Light Kit | Last edited by swamp2; 02-24-2013 at 09:33 PM.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-22-2013, 11:31 AM | #109 | |
Major
196
Rep 1,248
Posts |
Quote:
I'll be getting one, though I may consider keeping the E92 as well as the 4.0 is a true masterpiece. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-25-2013, 11:40 PM | #110 | |
Captain
634
Rep 959
Posts
Drives: 08' M5, '09 335i, '18 M3 MT
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Munich and Los Angeles (O.C.)
|
Quote:
Last edited by kgroschi; 02-25-2013 at 11:44 PM.. Reason: ... |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|