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      06-26-2014, 05:34 PM   #1
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M4 for the narrow win.


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What were the performance numbers?
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What were the car and driver quarter mile an 0-60 times for the m4?
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3.9 in the 60
12.1 @ 119 in the 1/4
Wow sweet

Faster than your corvette no?
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Wow sweet

Faster than your corvette no?
Comparable. The Corvette is getting 11.6 to 12.0 in real world testing so it is a bit faster but the M4 is no joke.
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Hmmm...so if you don't use the rear space C&D rates the base 911 the overall winner. It lost six points on rear seating alone. No surprise, if it had the rear seat space of the M4 it would be my choice.
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Hmmm...so if you don't use the rear space C&D rates the base 911 the overall winner. It lost six points on rear seating alone. No surprise, if it had the rear seat space of the M4 it would be my choice.
I think you need to take the scoring with a grain of salt

I'm relatively convinced they pick a winner and then score appropriately rather than the other way around. Besides, the 991 911 is no joke.
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So just confirming.....top of the line model BMW compared to base 911? Or was it an Carrera S at the least? Just curious.
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A little history lesson...

In 2009 the E92 M3 won 220-202. http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...mparison-tests
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Can you upload scans of the whole review? I am assuming these are dct equipped cars?
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I think you need to take the scoring with a grain of salt

I'm relatively convinced they pick a winner and then score appropriately rather than the other way around. Besides, the 991 911 is no joke.
I don't think anyone of us know how they score so no need to sepculate one way or the other. I haven't driven the M4 but I have driven the base 991 and I really like it. I would have bought it if my kids could fit in the back, trust me, I tried...more than once but had to give up
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911 won in all the categories that matter. Rear seat space 5 to 1 lol.
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looks like owners in great DA and air will be able to get lightly optioned M3/M4s into the 11's and 120ish. The car is a rocket ship in a straight line, especially considering it's not meant to be a straight line car.
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So just confirming.....top of the line model BMW compared to base 911? Or was it an Carrera S at the least? Just curious.
Two different price points, that's why. Welcome to the forums.
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911 won in all the categories that matter. Rear seat space 5 to 1 lol.
Great point....It was like..
better car? BMW.
better driving experience? 991.
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So just confirming.....top of the line model BMW compared to base 911? Or was it an Carrera S at the least? Just curious.
The base 911 is a more true sports car than the M4 regardless of what model. The 911S is, where I live, $25k more than the M4. The reality is that as much as we want to compare the 911 to the M4, they are different in purpose. The M4 is a competitor to the C63, RS5, etc more so than the 911 IMO. The fact it does this well is great.

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Not really relevant IMO. Besides, the 991 is WAY better than the 997.
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Here's the timeline...

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So just confirming.....top of the line model BMW compared to base 911? Or was it an Carrera S at the least? Just curious.
E46 M3 > Carrera S
E92 M3 > Carrera
F82 M4 seats > Carrera seats
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Gee gthal, you mean that Porsche moved the goalposts?

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Not really relevant IMO. Besides, the 991 is WAY better than the 997.
For some of us still - and for a long time BMW were explicit about this - the Porsche 911 is the benchmark for the M3. There is no particular reason you should consider it relevant, or that your judgement as to its relevance should affect mine.
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Two different price points, that's why. Welcome to the forums.
lol, thanks Mr. 2011.

I think you're all correct. It's like comparing an apple to an orange here. Different type/style of cars. Probably silly that they even compare them other than to give folks random stuff to post on forums, right?
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Mr. 2011? I was in the E46 world prior to this, but thanks bro.

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lol, thanks Mr. 2011.

I think you're all correct. It's like comparing an apple to an orange here. Different type/style of cars. Probably silly that they even compare them other than to give folks random stuff to post on forums, right?
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LOL!

Look at the two categories where the 911 lost a combined total of 6 points. Which would give it the win.

-Rear seat leg room
-Rear seat space

Honestly...No sh*t the 911 has no rear leg room.
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