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      05-05-2015, 05:02 PM   #1
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Very impressive gains but one question why did you not pull it 7400 rpm's?

The exhaust looks killer! I like the fact that regardless of valves open or closed all 4 tips have flow out of them! Yes it's really only two tips with a y section on each to make the quad tips but it at least there won't be two dead tips with valves closed like some other systems.

Please PM price.
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Nice. Another M Taxed exhaust. I'm not buying any exhaust due to this. I have the money but refuse yo pay an M Tax because "i clearly have the money if i own an M car" rubbish.

The same exhaust for a non M or RS or R car would be half that.
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Nice. Another M Taxed exhaust. I'm not buying any exhaust due to this. I have the money but refuse yo pay an M Tax because "i clearly have the money if i own an M car" rubbish.

The same exhaust for a non M or RS or R car would be half that.
Exactly. I'm sick of seeing this. No wonder everybody is coming out of the woodwork and building an exhaust for the F80/82. They see what other vendors are charging AND GETTING for their exhaust, so why not join the price gouging party!

Two words: Fuck. That.

The stock exhaust is actually really good, especially when paired with catless DPs, which makes these prices even more obsurd.
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      05-06-2015, 08:14 AM   #5
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Exactly. I'm sick of seeing this. No wonder everybody is coming out of the woodwork and building an exhaust for the F80/82. They see what other vendors are charging AND GETTING for their exhaust, so why not join the price gouging party!

Two words: Fuck. That.

The stock exhaust is actually really good, especially when paired with catless DPs, which makes these prices even more obsurd.
The catless downpipes prices are absurd compared to the N54/N55 too but you paid for those
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The catless downpipes prices are absurd compared to the N54/N55 too but you paid for those
I actually haven't paid for those, either. And yes, you're correct. They are stupidly overpriced.
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Very impressive gains but one question why did you not pull it 7400 rpm's?

The exhaust looks killer! I like the fact that regardless of valves open or closed all 4 tips have flow out of them! Yes it's really only two tips with a y section on each to make the quad tips but it at least there won't be two dead tips with valves closed like some other systems.

Please PM price.
That's correct; no one likes a dead tip! PM on its way!

With regards to the dyno graph: We noticed during our initial runs that peak power was consistently achieved around 6700 RPM. Being as our development platform was a customer's car, we felt it was not necessary to continually run the engine out to redline.

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Nice. Another M Taxed exhaust. I'm not buying any exhaust due to this. I have the money but refuse yo pay an M Tax because "i clearly have the money if i own an M car" rubbish.

The same exhaust for a non M or RS or R car would be half that.
The Fabspeed M3/M4 system received the same level of engineering, R&D, premium construction and materials, and manufacturing labor as any of our other performance exhaust systems. It's been priced accordingly and we truly believe that you get what you pay for.

Keep in mind that this is a full catback solution, including Fabspeed's proprietary Double-X midpipes, which offer the smoothest sound available on the market. To get a comparable system from our European competitors would cost over $6700, but many people who have heard both actually prefer the exhaust note that the Fabspeed system provides.

We could build a cheaper exhaust (and there are plenty available), but Fabspeed's goal is to provide the highest quality and performance possible without cutting corners.
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Looks great. How the heck did you guys come up with $5k for a stainless exhaust? Holy cow. Just because we drive an M3, doesn't mean we have tons of money and dumb enough to pay for anything that comes out. Drop it to $3,500 List and you'll be more competitive (or include DPs for $4,500). Just my 2 cents to help you guys be successful.
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Where's Megan racing at? They made one for the e9x, it sounded great, good quality build, and was around 500 bucks. Fab speed makes awesome stuff but these price points for any of these exhausts are just nuts.
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Vote with your wallet people. We need to stop buying all of this over-hyped, overpriced shit. I will not spend a single dime on any of this shit, on just principle alone.

What a joke.
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Vote with your wallet people. We need to stop buying all of this over-hyped, overpriced shit. I will not spend a single dime on any of this shit, on just principle alone.

What a joke.
A little harsh.... but I agree.

DPs for a 335 $695
DPs for an M4 $1095

Same product, same materials, same quality. Almost double the price.

I think we see this everywhere. KW V1 for a 335 is $1100 I believe. For the M3, they are, wait, they don't even make them. You have to go for the $2800 V3 or $3200 CS

I think your post is harsh since Fabspeed makes a very good product, but, yes, the overprice M-tax pricing model will only last so long and I think with the F80 platform we`ll see this change.
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Looks great. How the heck did you guys come up with $5k for a stainless exhaust? Holy cow. Just because we drive an M3, doesn't mean we have tons of money and dumb enough to pay for anything that comes out. Drop it to $3,500 List and you'll be more competitive (or include DPs for $4,500). Just my 2 cents to help you guys be successful.
We understand your concerns over price and are offering a 5% forum member discount for all customers and free shipping for all continental United States orders.

I'd like to highlight that the price for our system is including the mid-section which is an additional add-on cost from many of our competitors.

The Fabspeed Motorsport M3/M4 Valvetronic Exhaust System was developed and is manufactured to the same exacting standards as our Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, and McLaren systems. Please take a look at this video to get a better idea of what all goes into our systems.

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We understand your concerns over price and are offering a 5% forum member discount for all customers and free shipping for all continental United States orders.

I'd like to highlight that the price for our system is including the mid-section which is an additional add-on cost from many of our competitors.

The Fabspeed Motorsport M3/M4 Valvetronic Exhaust System was developed and is manufactured to the same exacting standards as our Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, and McLaren systems. Please take a look at this video to get a better idea of what all goes into our systems.

I had your xpipe on my E92 M3 and the quality of the construction, sound, and quality of the CAT you use on your system are second to none. Trust me, You do make an excellent product, but please understand the members concerns when your M4 DP is twice the price as the nearly identical 335 part.
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We understand your concerns over price and are offering a 5% forum member discount for all customers and free shipping for all continental United States orders.

I'd like to highlight that the price for our system is including the mid-section which is an additional add-on cost from many of our competitors.

The Fabspeed Motorsport M3/M4 Valvetronic Exhaust System was developed and is manufactured to the same exacting standards as our Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, and McLaren systems. Please take a look at this video to get a better idea of what all goes into our systems.
Cool vid. I have no doubt that your products are made with high quality standard and precision. I'm suggesting that $5k for stainless steel is pretty steep, considering the M3 Performance Exhaust canister is made of Titanium with same or better quality. Most of us can get MPE for under $5k shipped with Titanium tips. Meistershaft 100% full titanium exhaust is also crafted with precision, which we can easily get our hands on for $5k shipped.

For the Ferrari and Lambo guys, they're used to paying premium tax for parts. $5k for an exhaust is a bargain for those guys. For us BMW guys, we expect titanium if it's in the $5k range.

I really like American made products and I believe the industrial revolution is coming back to the U.S. I'm just giving you guys honest feedback (which others above didn't hold back). I'd rather see you guys sell a 500 sets of these vs 5 to those non-conscious buyers who just simply want to be "different." For starters, you'll have to differentiate yourselves from AWe and iPE on why your system is $1,500 higher (street price)?
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Cool vid. I have no doubt that your products are made with high quality standard and precision. I'm suggesting that $5k for stainless steel is pretty steep, considering the M3 Performance Exhaust canister is made of Titanium with same or better quality. Most of us can get MPE for under $5k shipped with Titanium tips. Meistershaft 100% full titanium exhaust is also crafted with precision, which we can easily get our hands on for $5k shipped.

For the Ferrari and Lambo guys, they're used to paying premium tax for parts. $5k for an exhaust is a bargain for those guys. For us BMW guys, we expect titanium if it's in the $5k range.

I really like American made products and I believe the industrial revolution is coming back to the U.S. I'm just giving you guys honest feedback (which others above didn't hold back). I'd rather see you guys sell a 500 sets of these vs 5 to those non-conscious buyers who just simply want to be "different." For starters, you'll have to differentiate yourselves from AWe and iPE on why your system is $1,500 higher (street price)?
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Meistershaft 100% full titanium exhaust is also crafted with precision, which we can easily get our hands on for $5k shipped.
We're not here to argue the merit of our competitors' systems. However, since you brought up Meisterschaft, I will address that directly. The titanium system that you are referring is $5000 for just the rear muffler section. If you want a comparable system that includes the mid-pipes, you are now looking at almost $8000.

Meisterschaft Titanium Rear Section Only @ Vivid Racing - $4900

Meisterschaft Titanium Mid-Pipes @ Vivid Racing - $2900

Now, if we look at Meisterschaft's stainless steel offerings, you'll find that we're priced almost identically.

Meisterschaft Stainless Steel Rear Section Only @ Vivid Racing - $3400

Meisterschaft Stainless Steel Mid-Pipes @ Vivid Racing - $1500

That puts you at $4900 plus shipping for a comparable system. Mind you, these prices are what Vivid is offering them for, which is notably lower than Meisterschaft's MSRP

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For starters, you'll have to differentiate yourselves from AWe and iPE on why your system is $1,500 higher (street price)?
The Fabspeed system is the only system which includes the "Double X" mid-pipe design. This may sound insignificant at first, but during our testing and development process, we went through multiple design versions that only included one crossover x-section. None of the single-x designs came anywhere close in terms of sound quality. The Double-X does a fantastic job of smoothing out the exhaust and removing the undesirable "rasp" that plagues the M3/M4 platform. The Fabspeed system is also fully hand-polished for a premium fit and finish. Fabspeed's proprietary rear muffler design also plays a large part in the quality of the exhaust note that is only available with the Fabspeed system. Unfortunately, videos don't really do this system justice. It has to be heard in-person to be fully appreciated.
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Nice. Another M Taxed exhaust. I'm not buying any exhaust due to this. I have the money but refuse yo pay an M Tax because "i clearly have the money if i own an M car" rubbish.

The same exhaust for a non M or RS or R car would be half that.
Have to agree. What is weird I always considered Fabspeed exhausts as a good value. Their exhaust system for P-cars are reasonably priced.
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US steel?
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US steel?
Yes. We source our steel tubing and sheeting from a handful of vendors across the United States. The majority of it actually comes from two different distributors right here in Pennsylvania.
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Good to know. Not a fan of off shore metals.


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Yes. We source our steel tubing and sheeting from a handful of vendors across the United States. The majority of it actually comes from two different distributors right here in Pennsylvania.
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Personally, I think the prices are pretty competitive and with a unique system offering of the double x-pipe, I don't see a problem with it.

I was actually on my way down to Chestnut Hill the other week and happened to see your shop and stopped late at night. Looks like an awesome place. I would love to get an exhaust from you guys once I get an F80.
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Personally, I think the prices are pretty competitive and with a unique system offering of the double x-pipe, I don't see a problem with it.

I was actually on my way down to Chestnut Hill the other week and happened to see your shop and stopped late at night. Looks like an awesome place. I would love to get an exhaust from you guys once I get an F80.
Stop by anytime! We'd be happy to show you around the facility, and you can see one of these systems in-person. We're open Monday through Friday 9am to 6pm.
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