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      07-27-2015, 06:37 PM   #1
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Onerib’s Risky AY M3 ED Journey

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I just finished up my first (but not last) BMW European Delivery. I have to say the experience was top notch. I give credit to all those on the forum who have detailed their experiences and encouraged others to join the fun. If you have not done ED, this thread will only prod you closer to taking the plunge. I was also very happy with my CA and dealer. If anyone wants to know that info, send me a PM.

First the risky aspect:

For those who already know or have read the following thread http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1141135 (What’s going to happen to me?), you already know the back story. Basically I kept my color choice a secret from friends and family and AY happened to be a color my wife (and I initially) hated. Read that thread for more details.

The build:
F80 M3
AY
DCT
CF trim
CF roof
Full black leather
19” Black alloy wheels
Exec package
Lighting package
Adaptive suspension
HK Sound
Rear sunshade
Top view camera
Parking assistant

This is a very long post so here are the big impressions I had on the trip.
• The F80 is the best car I’ve ever owned, and one of the best cars you can buy today.
• The M3 air conditioning was more than a match for mid 90’s and humid weather.
• Acceleration is brutal even when keeping the RPM’s in break in range.
• Suspension is stiff, but not penalizing
• Navigation system is excellent
• Love the cubby under the headlight switch
• Full leather should include the center console.
• Seats are very comfortable, even on long trips.
• Bigger fuel tank please.
• Exhaust switch is needed and one for active sound toggle.
No die cast M3 models at the Welt?!
• Debadging is the default in Europe, especially for luxury cars
• European AC is nothing like the US. Many times it’s barely cooler than outside.
• Germans and Austrians love ice cream/gelato/frozen yogurt.
• European yogurt tastes good, but is thin enough to drink.
• BMW does almost everything it can to make the delivery experience truly wonderful.
• Many more cyclists in Europe. They ride not only for pure exercise, but also for everyday errands.
• Burger King>McDonald’s
Chase Sapphire card rocked! It worked in manned and unmanned machines everywhere. The only trouble I had was using it with my Ortel prepaid account. Plus no currency exchange fees.
• Take cash out from ATM’s when you get to Europe. FOREX offices are a rip off.
• I swear Austria and Italy have unrestricted speed zones because they were flying at times.
• Driving through Switzerland is painfully slow.
• Ford is by far the king of Europe for American Manufacturers.
• I saw more Teslas (at least 5) than Cadillacs (0)
• Highly recommend Victory Hotel Therme Erding for families (see notes at the end)
• Biggest difference in US and European highways is the cleanliness of the road margins. All the rocks and debris are cleaned off.
• Italian pizza is fantastic
• Vignettes are easy to get at the border. No reason to stress it.
• Food is expensive in Switzerland, but the gas isn’t.
• Most exotic car seen on the trip was a Porsche 918 Spyder (of course I only got a cell phone photo)

I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by the US Airways economy flight out of PHL. I don’t fly that often and was dreading the thought of cramped economy seats and nasty food. I found the seats to be comfortable and the legroom more generous than anticipated. It may be because I usually fly Southwest. The food tasted good, but the portions were small. I only had 2 small issues. One was the touchscreen was terrible (very difficult to register touches). The second occurred when I was told to choose between pasta and chicken. I asked the flight attendant for a quick description and he just said “here look”. Both containers were covered in plastic wrap and steam. I guessed chicken and came away pleased. It must be way too much trouble to say pasta with a cheese sauce or chicken with herb gravy.
We first arrived in Barcelona as my brother and his husband have a place. It was the first time I had made it over to visit since he moved to Europe more than 5 years ago. We had a great 3 days there and I’ve included some pictures. Barcelona is a great city, but here are my observations of some differences.
*Things run out or break. They are eventually fixed but not necessarily the same day or week. We must have been told three times at two separate restaurants that a menu item had run out. Not the special, just a regular menu item.
*No one honks their horn; not even downtown. We drove/walked in the city for three days and I heard a horn twice.
*They are very proud of their Catalan language. So much so that Catalan is listed first in the Barcelona airport signage.
*Those that have a serious issue with nudity are warned. Even on the family beaches, it’s very likely you will see topless women.
*It’s a late city with the dinner rush starting at 9PM

View from their apartment at a shopping center
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Gothic area of Barcelona
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The church of Sagrada Família started by noted architect Gaudi and in constant construction (about 130 years). It is scheduled to finish in 2030 or so.
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Nearby beach town of Sitges
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National Palace in Barcelona
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Next we flew to Munich (not sure what I going to do there)
We easily found our way to baggage claim and upon passing security found our driver waiting for us. We soon had our bags mostly packed (as the 5 series couldn’t quite fit all six pieces of luggage). Our driver took us directly to the Louis Hotel in the center of Munich. I would recommend this hotel with 2 caveats. There doesn’t seem to be a room with a great view of anything and driving to the hotel can be a little daunting. The hotel offers reduced price parking in a garage across the street. The room was very nice and they had an extra bed put in for our son. Since this was our first European hotel stay it took us a minute to realize the power wasn’t out and to stick the room key in the slot to activate the lights.

We ate a late lunch at Augustine Keller. The food was delicious and we all agreed that we needed to start finding German Restaurants near our home. Of course the beer came in classic liter mugs. I didn’t look it up but I swear German beer must have a lower alcohol content because I can’t imagine drinking that much beer at home and not being slightly buzzed. Maybe it was adrenaline.

We walked around Marienplatz and I wasted the better part of my first day trying to get an Ortel sim card to work. I finally did and part of the reason for the trouble was the cashier who rung me up didn’t activate the sim cards. Click the following link if you want more details about the sim card
Ortel sim card

I was actually calm the day before delivery and was able to get a good night of sleep. I had an 8:20 check in so the morning consisted of catching the U bahn to the BMW Welt. Once we entered we were warmly greeted and shown to the premium lounge elevators. Paperwork was a breeze and my rep did give the obligatory “don’t drive into Liechtenstein” speech. After the papers were signed, I relaxed with the family and enjoyed a nice breakfast of Weisswurst (becoming a favorite) and other assorted goodies. After eating we went down to the gift shop to collect our safety vests and have my keychain engraved. As we went up the elevator we actually met our delivery specialist Bernhard. Luckily I was able to tell Bernhard that no one knew the color before he started his announcement. He thought it was quite funny that only I knew. A quick walk down the steps and my car was there in all its glory. We walked down to the car and went through the cars features. It was stressed that the European map usb stick COULD be removed and replaced whenever I wanted. You only have to make sure you don’t have a BMW tech enter the code it requests when the stick is out. Also I made the mistake of bringing music on an iPod. What I didn’t know is the iPod will not transfer music to the BMW HDD. I should have brought the music on a USB stick.

After some pictures and my son hijacking an i8 next to us, it was time to take the victory lap. One thing I planned to do was take that lap in sport +. No way was I going to use the wimpy efficiency exhaust note. I bellowed around the Welt and knew I was making a racket because another M3 had done their lap moments before me and was nowhere near as loud. I recommend doing this as it really sets the mood and matches the character of the car.

I then parked the car at the Welt and took the English language factory tour.
Some of the interesting tidbits were:
*They had a CF roof on display and even though you couldn’t take it off the stand you could feel how much lighter it was. The same could be said about the aluminum hood.
* All individual paints are done manually. Only the standard colors go through automation. This includes the offered “semi” individual paints.
* The door jams aren’t sprayed in the same manner as the outer body. No charged paint particles. The guide said this was because there are too many crevices that the charged paint wouldn’t reach.
* There are six paint robots used for the purpose of redundancy. If one goes down, the line does not have to stop. BMW keeps a mini storage area of painted bodies. This prevents delays in the situation of damage to a certain body. Another one of the same color can be pulled to replace it.

On approach to Munich
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Augustine Keller
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Louis Hotel
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Delivery Day!!!
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Welt Parking Garage (No shortage of i8’s here)
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More Food
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After our time in Germany we headed down to Innsbruck to stay the night. Great town, but they have a severe addiction to ice cream/gelato/frozen yogurt. There were 3 of those shops in a row at one point, and this is a ski town. We also had lunch at a burger place that was advertising a Sloppy Joe as their special. When I asked the waitress about it, she said it was a big hit with the locals and no one had ever heard of it (even her) before they started serving it.
Also for those worried about vignettes, don’t. It was so easy. All I did was drive into the last gas station before the border and buy one. That’s it. No muss, no fuss.

Gas station where I bought the vignettes
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Innsbruck from the hotel (Adlers hotel which I also recommend. Parking is in one of the garages under the hotel, but is not included)
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Innsbruck
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We left Innsbruck the next day to go to Venice. Instead of taking the Brenner Pass (boring), we went through the Dolomites. It took twice as long but was a much more enjoyable drive. We took the Sella pass which was filled with great roads, scenery, elevation changes, lots of motorcycles, and ski towns. I highly recommend it.

Sella pass
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Arriving in Venice was the worst part of the trip. The nav crapped out and kept turning us around right before crossing the water to get to Venice. It was also around 9PM when we got there. We had to get tickets for the vaporetto (water bus), but the machine was broken and only took cash. Luckily we had enough and dragged our bags onto the boat. Then we navigated the dark streets to find the hotel. The good thing was I was anal enough to repeatedly check Google maps of Venice near our hotel before we left. So we were able to get there without being turned around. To cap off the adventure, the front desk was unmanned for about 45 minutes while they were attending to another matter. Finally checking into the room past 11; we grabbed some pizza and called it a night.
Note to others. The VIP parking section of Tronchetto was closed the night we arrived. I don’t think it’s necessary to use as there were plenty of spots available. I preferred to have easy access to the car at all times.
Venice is a beautiful city. The food was great and it was easy to get great pizza from almost anywhere. I do recommend staying in the city. This allows you to enjoy it at night when less people are around. We would have done more but the heat was intense. It was 95-100 degrees everyday with high humidity.

Delicious Italian food
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Our Hotel (Ca’Gottardi, which was very nice after the intial check in experience. Only issue was the AC couldn’t keep up with the heat)
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Streets of Venice
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The next stop was a short detour for a tour of the Lamborghini factory. It’s really in the middle of farmland, but the factory itself is clean and well run. The tour guide really emphasized that they were a big family and from what I could see, I agree. It felt more like a “car guy” company and not a bunch of uptight snobs (cough Ferrari cough). The tour spent most of its time on the Aventador line. They rarely mentioned the Huracàn. I assume they didn’t want to mention the Audi roots. They have a quota of 5 Aventadors and 15 Huracàns a day. The wait list is 7-9 months for an Aventador (less than an individual M3/4 apparently). They also test drive each car for 15-25 miles on the street, so anyone who orders one, don’t be mad if you see 30 miles on the odometer. Of course, there were no photos allowed on the tour.

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Milan was next, and unfortunately the heat continued to follow us. It hit 100o while we were there. Now there are a lot of threads about how horrible it is to drive in Italy, esp big cities like Milan. My experience is that Italy’s autostrada and signage are very good. Milan itself was not difficult if you are used to driving in major cities. The differences are the streets aren’t as wide and the closer you get to the older center, the worse it gets. There are many one way streets and the occasional dead end. The nav system was excellent and if you follow it and just park the car, you’ll be fine. I would not drive around as it’s difficult to find parking and too congested to really enjoy any sights. Just grab a cab. We stayed at the Camperio House Suites and Apartments. Again we were well pleased with the location and accommodations. The stay included a free breakfast and had the largest rooms of our entire stay.

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Fashion district (even has red carpet sidewalks) Also notice only one US team made the cut there
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It is the most honest stock exchange in the world. This sculpture sits right in front of it.
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Lake Como is a lake resort for those in and around Milan and our next destination.
Our hotel (Villa Flori) has already seen a few forum members. It was excellent, had great views, and its own parking garage (not free). They had the most American breakfast buffet with scrambled eggs, bacon, and sausage. This is also where I took a solo driving trip through the Swiss Alps. The plan was to drive through Lugano to the Furka pass then the Susten pass before coming back to Lake Como. It was supposed to take 4 hours, but that didn’t happen. I wasted some time trying to get a phone recharge card and gas. What I should have planned into the time was all the scenery I wanted to look at and photograph. So I wound up getting some great shots and made it ¾’s through the Furka pass, but it was still worth it. I was in snow on a 94o summer day! Also the bicyclists are truly hardcore. The amount of work to pedal up that pass and back down is insane. Even more insane are the horse drawn carriages they use on the road.

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The drive through Switzerland was slow and boring, but we did stop in Lugano. There was a chocolate shop run by Läderach. The chocolate was delicious, especially the fresh chocolate (less than 30 days old). I would drive back there just for that. Our next trip needs to include Belgium; as many say their chocolate is even better.
Finally we ended our trip back in Munich. One little note about the last hotel on our trip. It’s called the Victory Hotel and it’s about 10-15 minutes from the airport. It’s in an area called Erding. The hotel is new and you can still see they are building on the property, so it has an unfinished look to it. The reason I mention it is that it’s also a water park and if you stay at the hotel you have access to half the park and a wave pool. My son loved it and it was a very relaxing end to the trip. Now the food isn’t great, but the rooms very nice. I would recommend it for those with families, especially families that may not care about cars as much as we do. You could easily stay there a few days, let the family have fun, while you run around and do car stuff. It’s just a thought.

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I made one last trip to the Welt to pick up a few souvenirs and shortly parked in the restricted area out front. I went in to ask where the garage was and by the time I came out there was a crowd around my car taking pictures. I don’t even think it was the color. They just love BMW’s and especially M’s.
The loginandout location is directly across from the Munich Hilton entrance. It’s easy to miss at first, so just look for the Hilton. As you turn in you’ll see the drop off spot on the right. The process was quick, and funny enough there was a young guy/kid taking photos of the car by the time I got out. My guess is he hangs out there from time to time to shoot photos of the cars. There was a yellow AMG GTS waiting to be shipped out as well. That car looks stunning.

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This last note is about Europeans and what they wear. They dress in a more upscale manner most times compared to Americans. Nothing over the top, but you can tell they aren’t just throwing on some mesh shorts, flip flops, and a t-shirt. Here are two examples of something you would be hard pressed to see in the states
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Now I wait for the car to join me stateside. So this turns to this .
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Take your time. I screwed up the post and need to edit to get the pictures done properly.
Haha, oh well, nothing perfect is ever as much fun as a fuckup!

I'm not happy to miss that now.

If the story is half as cool as the original thread, this will be a treat to us all.
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me neither. subscribed for the fix though
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Ok its not just me on the pics! Please fix! We ALL want to go back and this helps.
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Awesome. Just pure ay.
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Austin Yellow is growing on me more and more

even though my wife calls it poop yellow

My wife called it urinetown. Now she loves the color. If your wife hasn't seen it in person, it doesn't count.
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We walked around Marienplatz and I wasted the better part of my first day trying to get an Ortel sim card to work. I finally did and part of the reason for the trouble was the cashier who rung me up didn’t activate the sim cards. Click the following link if you want more details about the sim card
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We walked down to the car and went through the cars features. It was stressed that the European map usb stick COULD be removed and replaced whenever I wanted. You only have to make sure you don’t have a BMW tech enter the code it requests when the stick is out. Also I made the mistake of bringing music on an iPod. What I didn’t know is the iPod will not transfer music to the BMW HDD. I should have brought the music on a USB stick.
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Also for those worried about vignettes, don’t. It was so easy. All I did was drive into the last gas station before the border and buy one. That’s it. No muss, no fuss.
I am afraid I might miss the last gas station. Always a possibility. Is the Vignette a single standard price or is it based on number of days, etc.? Is a separate Vignette required in Switzerland as well?


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I have 2 of my old unlocked iphones that I plan to carry and just slap on local SIM cards when I get there. Seems easier that way. What do you think?

That should work just fine and would save you some time.

Care to elaborate? Not familiar with this

Don’t drive into Liechtenstein is what they all say. They don't recognize the plates so whatever happens, you have no protection or coverage.

Does send map from google to the car not work?

Didn't try it, so I don't know.

Am wondering if that would be advisable in the Manual considering how sensitive the throttle gets

Depends on how confident you feel. I didn't find it to be an issue.


I am afraid I might miss the last gas station. Always a possibility. Is the Vignette a single standard price or is it based on number of days, etc.? Is a separate Vignette required in Switzerland as well?

I think even if you miss the last station you could get it across the border. It's pretty easy to see the border on the nav and just bring up gas stations as a POI.

Yes, separate for the Swiss. They sell them right at the border because they are not EU and the border is still manned.

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I never heard that before What part was boring. Here is my plan from lake Como towards the tale end of our trip.....doesn't seem boring on paper

Lake Como to Interlaken area via San Gottardo, Glesch, Grimsel Pass and Furka Pass - 5 hrs.

Next day, Interlaken to Zurich via Susten Pass.
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