BPM Fxx M3/M4 OBD-II Port Flashing for End Users - Official Release - Available NOW!

[Ibiza]

I'm curious to know how the end customer will be able to revert back to factory ECU. Will they have to make an appointment for a remote programing session or can perform themselves prior to service? Lots of unkown variables.

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by VCP

I do agree, although that is the primary reason so many are hesitant to bench flash. Many waited for this in hopes to avoid any dealer issues. So it is relevant.

In my view, one is terribly misguided to believe BMW will not find out parameters of the DME were altered irrespective of tuning method. And even if the tuner told us we have nothing to worry about, would you truly believe them?

[SanchoDivine]

Originally Posted by FAM3

Does no one remember the price of Cobb/flash tunes on like N54/N55. Cut that in half.

Mtax bro!

[parabmw]

Who has the better reputation and tuning history..bpm, vf or ptf?
I haven't read much about bpm on here.
Will all the bm3 features likely be included in the new OBDII flash?
Gts tcu included?

[VCP]

Originally Posted by parabmw

Who has the better reputation and tuning history..bpm, vf or ptf?
I haven't read much about bpm on here.

Mike has been around a loooong time for such a young dude. He is really passionate and knows his stuff.

[M3anPower]

How good is BPM tune compared to BM3 or hcp?

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

In my view, one is terribly misguided to believe BMW will not find out parameters of the DME were altered irrespective of tuning method. And even if the tuner told us we have nothing to worry about, would you truly believe them?

There is truth in your statement, no one (tuners, hobbyists,...) really knows 100% what parameters BMW uses from FASTA to determine if an engine has been tuned.

What is known has been discussed already, but with every psdZ update that BMW releases, they could be silently adding more counter measures... Of course this is speculation, and one would have to parse in every release of ISTA the FASTA data to check if BMW is collecting additional data from ECUs to aid them in identifying software tampering and/or engine tuning in new manners.

Its a cat and mouse game, but i feel BMW does not care to invest that much aside from whatever existing primary and secondary faults they store, and other engine parameters.

[MilehighM3]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

That is the least concern, flash counter would only be of notice IF it is collected by FASTA, AND if it a significantly large number, like > 10. A smaller number cannot be used to differentiate between BMW dealers flashing an F8x or someone else doing it. Further the counter will increase even if you flash yourself with BMW DME firmware, how does that void warranty? BMW uses other means than a mere counter to identify software tampering, search and be enlightened

People that are worried about voiding warranty if modifying their cars should just not do it...

As others have noted, if you're worried about modifications voiding your warranty, it's best to avoid anything BMW does not provide directly.

[bracer]

Excuse the bonehead question, but where is all that data stored? I guess I'm wondering way you can't flash the entire DME back to stock including all the memory locations? Basically do the equivalent of a computer image file reload. AKA reset the ECU back exactly the way it was right before you flashed it to something else.

[M3GTC]

Mike did my M4 with the burble tune and it was the greatest decision I've made granted this was before the obd capability so we had to remove the ecu. I previously had Gintani's "burble tune" which essentially made the car a nightmare to drive in town but that's another story for another time... Made the switch and couldn't be happier with BPM. I think everyone should jump on this now that it's possible. Planning to do our X5m now that this is available. Keep up the great work Mike!

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by tropicatango

Pm sent
Congratulations for your good work, this is amazing

Thank you!

Originally Posted by nars3000

Questions:

1. Do you have any plans in offering a full E85 OTS map? or will that require a custom tune?

2. Does your software have any data logging and DME diagnostic capabilities?

3. Is a GTS DCT flash included similar to other vendor offerings?

1. Yes, we are planning on offering this. Due to high load it will not be something immediately offered but is definitely on the radar.

2. The software will support reading and clearing fault codes and clearing adaptations. This is not yet implemented on the F series vehicles, but will be added.

3. Transmission Flashing for F Series is in the process of being added. We will also be able to update the transmission to the latest software as well, aside from the performance aspect.

Originally Posted by VCP

Does bench flashing increment flash counter? Is this a partial file? I would like to see some data if you have that. Who tuned the partial file? Sorry for all questions, just this is quite a leap without full info.

Flashing on the bench does not increment any counters. The data read from the vehicle is not a complete file, you can not read certain areas over OBD. If you have specific technical questions I'm happy to answer - please PM or email me.

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

Warranty discussion has no place in this thread. If you're concerned about warranty don't have your car tuned, full stop. Not sure why these warranty discussions still rage on. Caveat emptor.

We prefer full disclosure and transparency. If an engineer is looking for something, it will probably be found. That said, we make every attempt to be as minimally invasive as possible. We have tuned hundreds of vehicles that have been in the dealer for warranty work without issues. At the end of the day, your mileage may vary. Warranty claims are often on a case by case basis. I have even seen a BMW employee vehicle flagged from a rep walking past the car in the service bay. Anything is possible here and we prefer to under-promise and over-deliver, than the other way around.

Is it worth the risk? My answer is that after having a tuned M5, and many other tuned BMW's - I can not possibly be satisfied driving a stock one ever again. The driving experience with our software, the power delivery, smoothness, and not to mention all the other bonus features is second to none. It makes the driving experience so much more pleasurable and OEM+.

Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

Who is actually creating the tune? I get that there's a new method of delivering the tune, but I see no graphs, no +HP,+TQ figures, etc.

Gains are listed on the site, we will put more data out there as time permits. We are calibrating the software and have tuned hundreds of F series vehicles.

Here is a video from last year when we released the Burbles etc on the M3/M4:

We will be dynoing some M4's and a new X5M later this week and will post the information.

Originally Posted by Ibiza

I'm curious to know how the end customer will be able to revert back to factory ECU. Will they have to make an appointment for a remote programing session or can perform themselves prior to service? Lots of unkown variables.

We will provide the stock software for customers to restore there vehicle to stock.

Thanks everyone and please bare with us on replies to PM/Emails - load is very high as you can imagine.

[NiceGuyEddie]

Can this software be used with Mac, or PC only?

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by NiceGuyEddie

Can this software be used with Mac, or PC only?

PC only. For MAC users we can flash your car remotely or you can use bootcamp/virtualization to run Windows on your Mac. We are here to help.

[Cn_flame]

Can you pm me price for this? Thanks

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by NiceGuyEddie

Can this software be used with Mac, or PC only?

Most likely for PC as seen in videos, but even so, if you have a Mac, you can install any virtualization software (VirtualBox, VMware, Parallels), or boot camp to run Windows. Of course, this does not mean that any software will run in virtualization, vendors to confirm.

I have the open source VirtualBox on my Mac, and run many BMW software (tool32, Esys, ISTA,...) as well on an older dedicated Win laptop.

[Kracker DC5]

Wow! I was literally about to order a benchtop flash tune for my 550xi. This is much better option.

So, the N63tu is covered? If I wanted to upgrade to stage II at a later date, I could just pay the difference (down the road)?

The actual tune is stored on my PC? So, I could go from stock to tuned as many times as I want? Are the options select-able as I would want them? Say I want to remove the cold start function, but then want to add it back (for example)

Thanks for the hard work I'm sure you all had to put in for this to work!

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by Kracker DC5

Wow! I was literally about to order a benchtop flash tune for my 550xi. This is much better option.

So, the N63tu is covered? If I wanted to upgrade to stage II at a later date, I could just pay the difference (down the road)?

The actual tune is stored on my PC? So, I could go from stock to tuned as many times as I want? Are the options select-able as I would want them? Say I want to remove the cold start function, but then want to add it back (for example)

Thanks for the hard work I'm sure you all had to put in for this to work!

From what I understand we extract our ECU software using the mailed cable/PC software, e-mail file to BPM, BPM re-writes the ECU software with the opinions choosen by customer, e-mails file back to customer who installs via cable/PC. Going back and forth between flash to factory will trigger the ECU counter, but apparently to reset this is in development.

[Clark_Kent]

Mike, I appreciate your candor on these tough questions. Full disclosure and honesty is the best and only policy.

[parabmw]

How long is the introductory price going to last?

[dj_505]

Hi,

Can you PM me pricing please. I'm located in Canada if that makes a difference at all. Thank you!

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by Kracker DC5

Wow! I was literally about to order a benchtop flash tune for my 550xi. This is much better option.

So, the N63tu is covered? If I wanted to upgrade to stage II at a later date, I could just pay the difference (down the road)?

The actual tune is stored on my PC? So, I could go from stock to tuned as many times as I want? Are the options select-able as I would want them? Say I want to remove the cold start function, but then want to add it back (for example)

Thanks for the hard work I'm sure you all had to put in for this to work!

Sorry - on road and posting from phone, so there will be multiple posts.

Yes, the N63tu is covered. You will have the file on your computer and can flash at your leisure. The stock files will have to be constructed from your read - but we will provide this to you.

There are hundreds of variations of software, but we have a 1.3 Terabyte library of nearly every software version - so our goal is to provide customers with the exact stock file that was in their vehicle prior to flash.

We are also going to offer customers the ability to update their engine and transmission software to the latest versions from BMW at their request - which means that BMW software updates and bug fixes can be incorporated into your tune.

If you've seen hundreds of software versions and the lineage of them, you'd be surprised how much is "fixed" over the years.

I have also been constructing the platform for offering the different variations of software and organizing the delivery system to be quick, efficient, and effective. Between all of the models, versions, specs, regions, and transmissions, there will be hundreds of different variations of tuned software.

As far as the cold start changes - this would require two different calibrations from us as we build the software to your spec, but I'm sure we can get this sorted for you.

We are going to roll out the M3/M4/M5/M6/X5M/X6M software first and then the non M versions - depending on load.

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

Mike, I appreciate your candor on these tough questions. Full disclosure and honesty is the best and only policy.

My pleasure - this is absolutely the only way to operate. Thank you.